Sad Realization for Moviegoers

Well,
yeah Germany is pretty good in dubbing, but in order to somehow lipsync stuff, they sometimes completely alter the original meaning of the sentence - unacceptable!
The only good thing about dubbing so far was that Steven Seagal got a good voice after all ;o)
 
Spartacus said:
Well,
yeah Germany is pretty good in dubbing, but in order to somehow lipsync stuff, they sometimes completely alter the original meaning of the sentence - unacceptable!
The only good thing about dubbing so far was that Steven Seagal got a good voice after all ;o)
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LOL about Seagal!

Translation/dubbing is such a tough thing (to do right) it's not even funny & there's often a good reason - other than timing/lip synching - why they'd depart from the original meaning.
References to places or specific persons is one example.

Connotations are mainly cultural, after all.
 
I've never been a fan of dubbing :( Just give me subtitles!

Just when I think that people have become as dumb and ignorant as they can get, something like this happens to let me know that this downward slide isn't even close to complete.
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There's some optimism! :beer: (though, I am inclined to agree)
 
I don't mind non-english films with subtitles.

I DO mind english films with "captions for the hearing imparied." I understand that they sometimes show movies with such captions, for obvious reasons -- but PLEASE tell me before I get in the theater...

Why is this such a problem? Because the captions are never timed right with the dialog. So you end up reading the text before the person says it, and it spoils any drama or humor. If you're watching a non-english film, this isn't a problem, because you can't understand their words anyway. But there's nothing worse than reading the punch line to a on-screen joke just before the character finishes the setup...only to wait a few seconds and hear them speak the punch line...

I was unfortunate enough to see Munich for the first time like this. It ruined the film for me -- I couldn't stop myself from reading the text at the bottom of the screen. I'm going to have to rent it on DVD so I can actually concentrate while watching it...
 
I love dubbing. SO much fun to see friends talking in them furrin languages, knowing full well they never went beyond 8th grade Spanish. :)
 
I saw a similar sign when Crouching Tiger came out.

It wasn't enough to say that the film was subtitled, the sign spelled out in big block letters that:

YOU HAVE TO READ

scary stuff my friend
 
There are reasons why people might not want to read a movie OTHER than being dumb, you know. Like being able to concentrate on the other 90 percent of the screen, for instance.

Personally, I can take it or leave it. But I certainly can understand why someone would find it annoying. You've got a movie like "Crouching Tiger" with all of its cinematic beauty and breathtaking color, and you spend most of it looking at the bottom of the screen.

So, I dunno, lay off a little.
 
bah, i like how hong kong does it they put up mandrian and english subtitles on all there movies so those who dont speak cantonese can understand everything. talk about a a friendly movie going experiance. I think people are little dumb I dont look at the bottom.... see the whole movie and the words when i watch... you know what pisses me off more than anything... when people read out loud in the theater now thats ****ing annoying.
 
-zach- said:
I have proof, courtesy of my camera phone, that today's moviegoers are getting way too stupid.

Seriously, a disclaimer?! Plus, we're getting so lazy that we don't even wanna read subtitles!?

Obviously, somebody complained! Probably more than somebody! Several somebodys!

I'm gonna peace out soon, check on this thread in the morning.
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Where did you see this in CT? It wasn't the Bow Tie Theatre in Norwalk, was it? Personally, I'm just amazed that this movie finally made it into widespread distribution. When it first came out, we had to trek from the suburbs of CT to NYC.

On a slightly related note, why did Crown Theatres change their name to Bow Tie? I mean a bow tie is classy, but isn't a crown the apex of nobility? Seems like a step in the wrong direction.
 
I once watched a version of "Blue Lagoon" that had a dude providing Russian voice-over for ALL characters, male and female. You haven't lived until you've seen a naked Brooke Shields speaking in a deep Russian baritone. :shocked:
 
David Jimerson said:
There are reasons why people might not want to read a movie....
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Absolutely!
It can be very distracting, especially when there's much dialogue. And that makes a big difference too. If there's not much dialogue, I do prefer the non-dubbed version. If it's dialogue heavy, I prefer a GOOD dubbed version.
However, it IS a shame that the US does either; 1) not know how to do it properly, 2) does know how to dub well, but chooses not to because it costs too much do do it right, or 3) does know how to dub well, but chooses not to because Hollywood is protecting its own products, and fears consumers would actually enjoy non-US films too much, and therefore is quite content with mediocre dubbing.
 
madmax.jpg


Best dubbing ever. (Or best worst dubbing ever)
 
Mad Max? No, that wasn't ADR, that was the US distributor not believing the US viewers would like/understand the Aussie accent, so they dubbed it with American accents (sans the singing).
 
vidled said:
LOL, isn't that the one where they dubbed English to English? :)
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Yes. I'm sure there are many fellow North Americans who remember watching Mad Max on late night TV in the 80's.
Years later I finally got to experience the original Austrailian diolgue when they released the DVD.
"I am the Night Rider!!!"
 
Well, I'll say this for Mad Max . . . some of the Australian accents WERE pretty thick -- and the Night Rider's voice in the original Australian was high-pitched and rather effeminate. The voice they dubbed with fit the character better.

That said, when I watch it, I watch the original Australian version.
 
David Jimerson said:
There are reasons why people might not want to read a movie OTHER than being dumb, you know. Like being able to concentrate on the other 90 percent of the screen, for instance.
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I have a buddy who doesn't like subtitles--he says when he sits down to watch a movie, he wants to relax and not have to "work".

Personally, I overwhelmingly prefer subtitles to dub. But it does detract from a complete viewing of the movie. I really like to watch subtitled movies at home where I can rewind and watch bits and pieces again. Often times I'll miss a section of dialogue because I was watching the action on-screen (and vice-versa). I can see where going to the theater to watch would be less enticing as I would be reaching for the remote control constantly!
 
I seem to remember a really bad spaghetti western, shot in Georgia, in English, dubbed into English by Italians- Badly. Talk about being torn, it was too bad to watch, and done so badly, it was too funny to turn off.
 
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