Help with backlight/ convo problem

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MikeC10305

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I need to match up these 2 conversation shots so that they match up.... The problem is the shot with the bed leaves me no room for back light the second and better shot is the talent sitting on the bed.... room for back light, etc..... How can I match these shots????
 

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See how the light in the shot to the right looks whiter and less amber even though I used the same gel and the back lighting is horrible also....... (no room) Also what can I do to create more shadows..... it is an interior night with the lighting based on a amber bedside lam and two windows that have pretty heavy blinds over them.....
 
Get a c-stand or light stand(out of frame of course) with an extending arm and hook a light up and over him. You might even be able to get a nice rim light this way. Check it'.
 
So point it over him and down?
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Yes. And possibly angled to go right behind his head as to not get too much of a hairlight.

Or off of the wall???
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If you do this, you will create an unnatural looking shot because one side of the wall is hotter than the other.

And seeing that it is a night scene I would diffuse your light a bit to the point where it looks as though the moonlight coming from the front of him(if in fact that is where its coming from) bounces off the back wall and onto the back of him.

Def. don't make his hairlight(if it is there, depedning on how you position light) to bright in this case either.
 
you dont need abacklight there, unless its coming from a practical. just light the background seperately. Unless you dont want a realistic look.
 
you dont need abacklight there, unless its coming from a practical. just light the background seperately. Unless you dont want a realistic look.
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Yes. There needs to be motivation for your lights. Although most rooms that I've lived in have a light above(tungsten obviously) so it would make sense to have one in what looks like a room to me. But if you don't, then you shouldn't.

Also, you have a light panel/switch in frame(which happens to be turned on), which is an obvious indication of it being connected to a light somewhere(overhead?), so if you don't have the overhead light on turn the light switch off or just keep it out of frame. Although that light could be coming from his key light practical, but could be turning on a multitude of lights. Gosh, I'm really reading to heavily into things...but the audience is sophisticated.
 
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I plan to try the c stand above his head and to the right as he is right by a window and the window has a street light not too far..... living in the city...... anyway .... any otehr input on matching these shots and why 1 looks so much better then the other????
 
I think I need more of the amber light in the shot so I am going to use a higher wattage bulb......... This should work well, no? Because in the other shot the amber is much stronger and they are sitting right next to each other ....
 
Will you show more of the room or only this shots?
I also think you don´t need a BL here, I´d rather show a small practical to the right giving the orange light its motivation and hang a bluish softlight up left and away from the actor representing moonlight through a window...
Like this, it has that "reading at night mood", if you´d change the Key to the blue "moonlight" and just add a slight orange fill it would be more the "woke up at night, laying awake in the dark" mood - well, IMHO of course...
And I´d also break up the keylight with blinds or treebranches or just flag it somehow, at least if the room is that small and the key is the "moon"...
 
If there is no room for a light behind the talent, you could tape a small reflector there (or just white cardboard or styrofoam) and aim a fresnell there flagging it carefully.
 
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