Proposed Flipped/Non Flipped Vibrating Adaptor with Rod System

I'll Buy One!

I'll Buy One!

Hello,
If light loss is minimal or average and picture quality is good, then, i'll buy one. Can't wait to see finished product and footage. I'm interested in the flipped version. I don't want to deal with flipping in post. I have an HVX200, so will your adapter work in HD? I can beta test for you if you need? thanks.

Carlos M, Tucson, AZ
 
Hi Carlos,

Haven't tested it yet so can't give you a definitive answer on this. There has been some issues with using HVX HD camcorder with vibrating adaptor design. My design is specifically made for SD as my main intention was to make an adaptor for my panasonic mx500 but it is usable on any SD camcorder as long as the mounting is there. I would love to have the adaptor tested with HVX. Let me get some of the stuff sorted out and I will PM you.
 
Just a little update. The adaptor is finally here. Assembled the whole thing and it turned out ok. Had a scare with the vibrating mechanism as initial tests showed the vibration wasn't as good. But with a fellow forumer's help, I think I am on track. Thanks Daniel.

The flip worked out as planned. But as with any flipped, there is unfortunately light loss. Not sure how to measure light loss but I guess its around 2 stops with a crappy test GG. But with a brighter GG, that 2 stops should go down to either 1 or 1/2. Sorry if I may be wrong. Like I said, I have no clue how to measure light loss. Still a fair bit to go with installing the wires, motors, switch, battery adaptor and etc. But if everything is as planned, mid february I will have test footage for you guys. But no worries, will update as I go along. Will put up pictures of the adaptor soon. Keep watching.
 
You can measure total system light loss with the camera zebra stripes. Shoot a white card, and bring up the iris til you see the stripes. With the same card and lighting setup, do the same thing with the adapter and lens on. The f-stop difference will be the light loss.
 
j said:
You can measure total system light loss with the camera zebra stripes. Shoot a white card, and bring up the iris til you see the stripes. With the same card and lighting setup, do the same thing with the adapter and lens on. The f-stop difference will be the light loss.
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Thanks for the info. My camcorder has zebra stripe function will try it out.
 
Hi All,

So far so good. I have installed all the necessary parts for the adaptor. The result is very encouraging. The flip is working perfectly and I am beginning to think maybe I should discard the idea of a non-flipped version and just make the flipped version. Light loss is minimal. And that is with a canon Ee lens. Will be using a brighter GG soon and the result should be much better. Sorry for not posting any pictures so far but as soon as the vibration mechanism is sorted out and I get some video shots with my humble MX500, will put up some shots. Will also be trying out with a DVX100B setup. Will keep you guys posted.
 
Hi Jonathan,

I am keeping that as an option for anybody is interested to test drive the adaptor, so to speak. My only problem is the cost in getting one of this done. I will say the adaptor is suitable for SD camcorder only for now. As there has been alot of comments regarding HD camcorder seeing grains, I am afraid the result will be the same with my adaptor. But I will definitely have the adaptor tested whether its by myself or someone else like yourself with an HD camcorder. Thanks, will keep you posted on this.
 
Hi guys, just a little update on the adaptor. Sorry to say, it's debut is going to be delayed. I am having problem with the noise coming out of the motor and this is unacceptable as it gets picked up by the camcorder mic. So what I am doing is get the CNC shop to cnc some more parts for me to test out. Once I get the part to work right with minimal noise, I will release the adaptor for viewing. In the meantime I will take some video with the adaptor and post it here for all to see. But I can only post the video test footage next week.

Safe to say the light loss (canon FD lens 1.8 50mm) with the flipped version is still low. I am not sure how to test light loss. Someone advised using the zebra function on my camcorder but its a cheap camcorder. I would guess a 1/2 light stop lost.

Thanks.
 
whatever happened to this adapter... I was really interested to see the results it produced... any updates, pictures, grabs or footage?
 
I was hoping no one would notice. Anyway, it is still alive and kicking. The problem with asking some company to produce the parts i need is costing me both money and time. I have the adaptor ready for my own use. I can post some video grab tonight. Bear with me.

I am currently working on getting a cnc milling machine to do my own parts and this is the thing that's holding the adaptor up. Very sorry guys.

A promise is a promise, but i haven't given up hope yet. I am getting good results with my adaptor currently but its commercial debut is still sometimes away.

It's nice to know someone still interested to know more.
 
people are interested its just that people lose hope quickly because its been way too often that someone has promised a new adapter and footage but has not pulled through. So you should understand, not many will be checking here as often until you do post some footage and possibly a release date but it seems the release date probably wont happen for quite some time. Goodluck though and for everyone's sake I hope it all comes together for ya.
 
Test footage finally here!

Test footage finally here!

Hi all,

Thanks for your patience. I have finally uploaded test footage from the adaptor to YOUTUBE. So click away and comment. I am using a very crappy set of macros. So you will probably see some CA and not so sharp videos. I have just gotten an achromat from Edmund Optics. But I don't have a holder to screw the achromat onto the adaptor. So test footage with that will come out later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlMu7-rqvUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE1il64K2-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeUG75wNlkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alITv-K-aL4

Also some grabs from the test footage.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/TripPic1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/Orchid.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/MineralWater.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/FlowerPic1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/DanielPic1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/Bicycle.jpg

Also pictures of the adaptor with Panasonic MX500. I am using simple hardware stuff to hold the camcorder in place. Very flimsy. I am in the process of having a better rail system made. I can use Cavision rail system but they are expensive.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/AdaptorPic3.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/AdaptorPic2.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/alexccm/AdaptorPic1.jpg

Thanks
 
By the way, no color correction was done on any of the videos. A couple of the videos, I added the top and bottom black bars.
 
Looks good and nice flip design. Any idea when it will be ready for mass consumption and the price?
 
Hi David,

I am working on improving the vibrating system. Current version aren't working so well although as you can see in the video, it is not too bad. I am getting slight Z axis movement. The new design should be better. Thanks to Daniel, I am going the route of his design.

I would like to commercialise the adaptor asap. But as the component hasn't been refined, I wouldn't even dare to sell it. If everything works out, I am thinking of selling it for around usd 1.2k. I know its abit expensive as compared to the letus, but you wouldn't need a rail anymore which can cost a bomb from Cavision. Thats with flip system, Power supply, universal rail, Achromat lens. choice of nikon or fd lens mount. The unit will be polished anodised black and sealed to prevent dust. I left the option of interchangeable GG but I leave it up to the user to decide what to do. And its inclusive of shipping charges.

I am targeting both low end video camcorder owner as well as high ends like DVX. Which will be tested in SD. But I will be testing it on HD format once I get my hand on an HD camcorder.

Any comments regarding what I have just written are welcome. Thanks.
 
What lens can you put on the adapters? Nikon..Canon..?

Hey...ill test any of your adapters for HD. I recently got a HVX200.

Are you planning on making a 82mm ring for the HVX? or just sticking with the 72mm ring for the DVX?
 
wow alex, the adapter looks nice... I wish I could see some full res footage but ya kno... I was also going to ask you, I'd like to see some shots with the HVX200 and some of the HDV cameras if you get ur hands on them. How many stops of light are you losing right now?
 
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