Jay Rodriguez
Coffee Member
I just read through the contract for submissions and basically you're signing ALL rights to your film to them. Am I seeing things incorrectly here or is that kind of extreme?
What's the deal with "onthelot"?
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Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Nope, it's true... hence the reason I can not submit a Smuggler's Ransom trailer.
Chris Messineo
Veteran
Welcome to the "hollywood machine".
Chris
Chris
capitalP
Veteran
Actually J, I read through all the fine prints, you still own your film, you're just giving them the right to use the film anyway they choose. It's not like once you sign the contract, the film is no longer yours like a "screenplay for hire". Where a company hire's a screenwriter to write them a screenplay and they get paid a fee for it, but the company owns all rights to the screenplay... nothing like that, if you really want to enter in the contest, you're safe!
But in Briceman's case, he might come across some legal issues if he's trying to get distribution for his film, but he would still own it. Whoever is distributing his film might want sole rights, but if you have a short you feel is worthy and don't have any plans of getting distribution for I'd submit it.
But in Briceman's case, he might come across some legal issues if he's trying to get distribution for his film, but he would still own it. Whoever is distributing his film might want sole rights, but if you have a short you feel is worthy and don't have any plans of getting distribution for I'd submit it.
AllAroundFilmLV
Well-known member
Rice, have you considered compiling a short from scenes that were cut out of your film? That way, "on the lot" could use that footage, and you would still have your origninal footage for distribution.
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Not really. I think I'll just submit another short I've either done, or will do.
Jay Rodriguez
Coffee Member
hmm, ok. I think I'll be safe with entering one of my shorts.
JoeFowler
Well-known member
My concern with the show, is that it's just that, a "reality show." I thought long and hard about this months ago and felt that if I got on the show, and even won, who cares if I got a deal to direct one of Dreamworks movies, everyone would think I was a chump for being on a reality show.
Think about, who has been on a reality show that you respect after? Everyone loved little Clay Aiken when he was a nobody struggling to be a star. But once he finished the show and made an album, he stopped being "one of us", a nobody, and we all hate him now. Everybody makes fun of him, and thinks he's a joke.
Is it that important for me to make movies I would give up my peer acceptance?
For me, no.
But, good luck to those who enter, and I hope I'm wrong. I'm just afraid I'm not.
Think about, who has been on a reality show that you respect after? Everyone loved little Clay Aiken when he was a nobody struggling to be a star. But once he finished the show and made an album, he stopped being "one of us", a nobody, and we all hate him now. Everybody makes fun of him, and thinks he's a joke.
Is it that important for me to make movies I would give up my peer acceptance?
For me, no.
But, good luck to those who enter, and I hope I'm wrong. I'm just afraid I'm not.
Jay Rodriguez
Coffee Member
Yeah but I'm better looking then Clay. Well, at least my mama thinks so.
Jon Starr
Veteran
I thought of entering as well, but the main reason I didn't is for the simple concept of the show.
It seems like they, obviously, built the show around a way to get people fighting with each other, to create drama and controversy. As with any reality game show people get taken off the show 1 by 1. If it were "american idol" style only, then I like the idea of it. You get to show people you're work even if you don't get all the way through. You show yourself to the industry.
Now the only thing is that it is a mix of the apprentice and americal idol. The apprentice means that you get divided into 2 teams, but you chose one director for each team, and the rest act as producers. Well only the director is on the chopping block. Then the american idol part would mean a lot of it would be simply a popularity vote. "He's so dreamy... I think I'll vote for him" or "he seemed like an asshole in that fight, I won't vote for him"
Also you might not be able to show people who you are and what you can do because you may be producer for most of the show... It's not like every week you make a film and people vote for you against 10 other films. You simply have one, maybe 2 chances to show people who you are and vote for you. Each week is a different genre, so perhaps you'll get a genre you're not used to but the director of the other team has done many times.
Seems to be too much IMO. Because the film might not only be dependant on yourself, but on the people you team up with. Not to mention that most of them will be film makers that are used to having control over their films, so they'll want to stick their nose into every part of the film making process and judge you every step of the way.
So many problems with the show. I want to at least see one season of the show, see what happens to the winner before actually submitting anything.
It seems like they, obviously, built the show around a way to get people fighting with each other, to create drama and controversy. As with any reality game show people get taken off the show 1 by 1. If it were "american idol" style only, then I like the idea of it. You get to show people you're work even if you don't get all the way through. You show yourself to the industry.
Now the only thing is that it is a mix of the apprentice and americal idol. The apprentice means that you get divided into 2 teams, but you chose one director for each team, and the rest act as producers. Well only the director is on the chopping block. Then the american idol part would mean a lot of it would be simply a popularity vote. "He's so dreamy... I think I'll vote for him" or "he seemed like an asshole in that fight, I won't vote for him"
Also you might not be able to show people who you are and what you can do because you may be producer for most of the show... It's not like every week you make a film and people vote for you against 10 other films. You simply have one, maybe 2 chances to show people who you are and vote for you. Each week is a different genre, so perhaps you'll get a genre you're not used to but the director of the other team has done many times.
Seems to be too much IMO. Because the film might not only be dependant on yourself, but on the people you team up with. Not to mention that most of them will be film makers that are used to having control over their films, so they'll want to stick their nose into every part of the film making process and judge you every step of the way.
So many problems with the show. I want to at least see one season of the show, see what happens to the winner before actually submitting anything.
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Larry Rutledge
Fest Master
The only thing that has, thus far, kept me from entering is the fact that assuming I were to make it on the show (and why wouldn't I make that assumption if I actually entered?) then I have to deal with the fact that for the 16 weeks of filming I would be unable to work my regular day job. That would mean I would miss 4 months of pay and unfortunately my car payment, rent and credit card payments don't have a "leave of absence" option.
Jay Rodriguez
Coffee Member
JoeFowler said:
LOL, I know man. It's all in fun. Seriously though, I 'm going to enter my boxing film for this.
Jay Rodriguez
Coffee Member
Blaine said:
that's pretty much what I was thinking too. competition might not be thin the 1st season. lol
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
No films more than 5 Minutes Long
They must illustrate a beginning, middle and end (That whole telling a story thing)
also a
:45 Intro by you, the filmmaker
=
Only one submission per person
They must illustrate a beginning, middle and end (That whole telling a story thing)
also a
:45 Intro by you, the filmmaker
=
Only one submission per person