Movies You Would Rather Vomit On Than Watch Twice

I think the compositions and lighting in 2001 was what set the tone for every "space" movie till Ridley scott made space ships scary in Alien. Then after Scott. everything in space was scary looking.....
 
CallaghanFilms said:
I have said many times that Kubrick is vastly overrated as a director (Hitch he ain't!) I agree that 2001 and A Clockwork Orange are boring, boring films (something that it is not PC to say in some circles.)

He did make 2 great classics in his time, tho...Dr. Strangelove (one of the best comedies of all time) and The Shining (one of the best horrors...and my pick for the scariest film ever.)
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Yeah, but to me, this is what makes him NOT overratted, that he made two films in different genres that are really, truly great films in those genres. I agree about the Shining, my top horror film.

Not only that, but I think he made one truly great war film: Paths of Glory.

but strangelove is so funny simply because it nails the absurdity of nuclear war like nothing I've ever seen. It's funny because when you step outside something like a nuclear arms race and look at it rationally, it's the craziest thing in the world and nearly impossible to imagine adults actually discussing it as a real possibility. If you look at it objectively, those people can only be viewed as fools to be laughed at. And that's what he got to.
 
i just love their logic on Nuclear armament. well actually, things havent changed much have they?
 
Blaine said:
...Full Metal Jacket...
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I enjoy Full Metal Jacket as well...but because of R. Lee Ermey, not because of any overly-great filmmaking. try & imagine this flick without Ermey in it...go on imagine it, I'll wait....

As far Spartacus...
the wheels on this Kirk Douglas vehicle were already rolling, and well into the race by the time Kubrick took over the driver's seat.
 
CallaghanFilms said:
I enjoy Full Metal Jacket as well...but because of R. Lee Ermey, not because of any overly-great filmmaking. try & imagine this flick without Ermey in it...go on imagine it, I'll wait.....
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he certainly is an entertaining character. but the film is also successful as a two part study on the dehumanizing phenomenon of war. and it's that aspect that has given me cause to return to it, long after my admiration for r. lee ermey's performance had worn off. my 2¢.
 
Ermey was entertaining yes. but the whole cast was amazing, especially Joker and Pyle... the credit goes to the director for selecting the right cast and coaxing the best performances from everyone.

I actually find The Shining a little dissappointing. first time I saw it - amazing! but perhaps it is so memorable that it doesn't really survive multiple viewings..
 
I say without Ermey, it would be an average war film at best.

That being said...none of Kubrick's films deserve to be on this Movies You Would Rather Vomit On Than Watch Twice list/in this company...they ain't that bad. My point is/always has been that they (especially 2001 & Clockwork) ain't that good either.
 
I fall into the unpopular camp of wondering what the big deal is about Stanley Kurbrick . I often think people are more caught up in his persona than the work itself.

I am not sure who sits there and watches 2001: ASO and goes 'Oh yeah, I'm being entertained now!' . I don't doubt his influence on modern filmmaking, but I can live without Kubrick

The Shining and Full Metal Jacket are my two fav films by him. The rest, despite their innovation or impact I think were behind my time.
 
I agree with John that too many get hung up on the person and not the work that they do.

Same can be said of talent in front of the camera. Casting directors just like producers make the assumption that the public is much more interested in celebrity status than actual talent. What's sad is they are often right.
 
John_Hudson said:
I am not sure who sits there and watches 2001: ASO and goes 'Oh yeah, I'm being entertained now!'
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... dude, I don't think 2001 was meant to be entertaing the way FMJ and EWS were, though its been years since I last saw it, on VHS....
 
I don't know how anyone cannot love 2001. This is an amazing film, especially since it was made in the 60s. It's so quiet and creepy. Hal 9000's voice is the creepiest thing I've ever heard. I think the problem with people not liking this film is they have a lack of patience and they think if a movie is in space it should be nonstop action, battles and lazer guns. 2001 is meant to be a hypnotic glimpse at the evolution of mankind. This film is far from a thrill ride so I can see why people get bored, and the last part of the film is a bit dated with the "special effects" light show as the pod is thrust through time and space. But the film is beautiful and provoking, and to say this film is bad is an injustice.
 
Pen Cap Chew said:
...to say this film is bad is an injustice.
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...then lock me up & throw away the key (just make sure that "movie night" at the cell block that I'll be an inmate at does not include any boring Kurick films like 2001...slip some payola to the guards and bring in some Hitchcock or Capra...or smuggle me in some Spielberg alongside my oversized file.)
 
Granted, 2001 has some cool and at the time exciting sci-fi imagery and obviously one of the greatest uses of classical music in any film, and yeah, Hal, but come on.....The 20 minute opening with people in monkey suits? The mysterious obelisk? The star-baby? I do recognize the attempt at some sort of commentary on the evolution of humanity, but really I'm just kind of surprised this movie isn't made fun of more often. It's all so freaking random, that yeah, I guess it could be called beautiful and provoking - a lot of "artsy" films get away with this - But it could just as well be called something else...
 
... dude, I don't think 2001 was meant to be entertaing the way FMJ and EWS were, though its been years since I last saw it, on VHS....
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Dude, bro.

Entertained, interested, amused, enlightened, moved ......

Bored

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I don't know how anyone cannot love 2001. This is an amazing film, especially since it was made in the 60s. It's so quiet and creepy. Hal 9000's voice is the creepiest thing I've ever heard. I think the problem with people not liking this film is they have a lack of patience and they think if a movie is in space it should be nonstop action, battles and lazer guns. 2001 is meant to be a hypnotic glimpse at the evolution of mankind. This film is far from a thrill ride so I can see why people get bored, and the last part of the film is a bit dated with the "special effects" light show as the pod is thrust through time and space. But the film is beautiful and provoking, and to say this film is bad is an injustice.
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Being made in the 60's is a testament. It is quiet and creepy and I do get the point of the film. But you're not speaking for me; I'm not looking for non stop action and space battles in my scifi; see Blade Runner, see CE3K ...

Patience ? I love even the most deliberate paced films but this film for me is just Behind the Times for my schooling. I never said it was bad; I acknowledge it but find it ovehyped; I'm not impressed.
but really I'm just kind of surprised this movie isn't made fun of more often. It's all so freaking random, that yeah, I guess it could be called beautiful and provoking - a lot of "artsy" films get away with this - But it could just as well be called something else...
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Wow; that's an interesting way to look at it. I have to admit; I think you're right. :beer:
 
John_Hudson said:
I'm not looking for non stop action and space battles in my scifi; see Blade Runner, see CE3K ...
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You don't think Blade Runner was action-oriented? Skin jobs run amok?

And even Encounters was quick-paced comparatively. And if it wasn't for 2001, CE3K wouldn't be what it is -- so you can thank 2001 for inspiring Spielberg. Wasn't it Spielberg who said, if you want to work with me you have to have seen 2001 (amongst other films)?
 
at the time of 2001's release, i don't think anyone had seen as realistic a portrayal of space travel. so a lot more time was dedicated to what we'd consider mundane now. like watching film about a train pulling into a station in 1895.

anyway, i think it's tedious in its pacing, which is not to say that the philosphical content on humanity isn't fascinating. and its the only reason i've seen it as often as i have. my brother wrote a song inspired by its ideas called "Europa".
 
Of course, comparing them, 2001: ASO is like a day in the library. I was just thinking of SCIFi films not drenched in Action in the usual context

BR has that kind of Noir'd slowed down pace and CE3K's biggest action sequence is the contact Dreyfuss has with the U.F.O.s. I was thinking of SciFi films NOT like Armegeddon or Aliens or Star Wars = P
 
Actually, I think "A Clockwork Orange" is a near-perfect blend of a commercial film and an art film. It's also hilariously funny black comedy.

I watched CE3K last weekend; it was on INHD, so why pass it up? I couldn't help but think that it's what a "movie" is supposed to be -- majestic, inspiring, epic, otherworldy, and without all the frickin' MTV crystal meth ADD-edit bass-injected CGI McG bullshite which largely passes for it today. I mean, you CAN stay on a shot for more than a microsecond and keep the audience's attention, you know . . .

Personally, I think a movie like CE3K or E.T. would still make zillions today.
 
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