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Buying my fist microphone, what to get?
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jgastelb
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You should probably do a search. The NTG-1 and 2 are good mics for the money but they're not ideal for indoors. Oktava is best for indoors for the price.
Here's a little test I did a while back with the NTG-1.
Jgastelb
http://media.putfile.com/Rode-Versus-In-Cam-Mic
Here's a little test I did a while back with the NTG-1.
Jgastelb
http://media.putfile.com/Rode-Versus-In-Cam-Mic
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ian hunter
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Buying my fist microphone, what to get?
what's a fist mic?
sorry,
what's a fist mic?
sorry,
moonlitnite
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Hi Gary,
Of course, while it's hard to give a specific recommendation not knowing your application, I guess we can share favorites based on our personal usage. Until I heard the Octava MK012, I figured the Heil PR40 was great for a $300 studio microphone. Now I'm not so sure. While I did a few comparison tests on my Sennheiser wireless units, you can also listen to the Heil and Octava at this private link on my website:
http://www.bridgehands.com/audio
BTW, don't forget to buy a shock mount. And if you're planning on outdoor use, then favor the Octava over a Heil and get a Baby Ball Gag and Windjammer.
As you may know, the NTG, being a (directional) shotgun, is in an entirely different class of microphones. You can listen to demos of the Rode here:
http://dvestore.com/theatre/mics_guide.html#
So if you expect a significant extraneous noise from outside sources, focus on a shotgun instead of the Octava hypercardiod.
Good luck, Michael
Of course, while it's hard to give a specific recommendation not knowing your application, I guess we can share favorites based on our personal usage. Until I heard the Octava MK012, I figured the Heil PR40 was great for a $300 studio microphone. Now I'm not so sure. While I did a few comparison tests on my Sennheiser wireless units, you can also listen to the Heil and Octava at this private link on my website:
http://www.bridgehands.com/audio
BTW, don't forget to buy a shock mount. And if you're planning on outdoor use, then favor the Octava over a Heil and get a Baby Ball Gag and Windjammer.
As you may know, the NTG, being a (directional) shotgun, is in an entirely different class of microphones. You can listen to demos of the Rode here:
http://dvestore.com/theatre/mics_guide.html#
So if you expect a significant extraneous noise from outside sources, focus on a shotgun instead of the Octava hypercardiod.
Good luck, Michael
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dwnsthballer
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I just got my Oktava on Wednesday, and man...this thing is tiny (but sounds amazing)!
I am looking to purchase Mics I/O.
This is a very interesting link I found... Anyone wanting to purchase mics should visit this website.
http://www.dvfreelancer.com/articles/shotgun_shootout.html
Please also read: http://www.schoeps.de/E-2004/mics-gen-characs.html
Sandesh
This is a very interesting link I found... Anyone wanting to purchase mics should visit this website.
http://www.dvfreelancer.com/articles/shotgun_shootout.html
Please also read: http://www.schoeps.de/E-2004/mics-gen-characs.html
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about low fq noise - it better you check out your suspension or boom pole , the 416 or mk60 are no sensitive in regullar way of working more then other mics , the opposite is it true , thy are less .justin_newlands said:
why not anyone recomend on this forum about 60 ( if it the mic you refer to) , is becouse it cost about the sum people usially take out for all their audio rig .
it is agood mic maybe the quetes for s/n ratioshort shotgun on the market , some love it sound and some like me prefer something else and not becouse the price point .
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MattinSTL
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I like the mkh-60 and recommend it to people all the time. The only 2 issues for this thread are the price and the type of mic... the 60 won't be good in many interiors where the Oktava will still excel because of the hyper-cardioid option.
If somebody posted that they had the budget for cables, a pole, shockmount, windscreen, and headphones... and then AFTER that they still had the budget left to honestly say "I can get the mkh-60 or I can get the Oktava... which should I get?"
I'd say "get both". The Oktava is $165 (with code "DV") so that's peanuts for a mic with the potential for professional results. The mkh-60 is $1300-1400... and it's a shotgun.
I've got 4 hypers because that polar pattern is the most commonly used in my soundkit... 2 of them are Oktavas and 2 of them are $600-700 mics.
The Oktava is a great place to start recording good sound... but don't forget all the support gear such as mount, screen, etc.
Even if you start with the Oktava, you'll still be holding over $500 once it's in a screen, in a mount, and plugged in at the end of a pole.
If somebody posted that they had the budget for cables, a pole, shockmount, windscreen, and headphones... and then AFTER that they still had the budget left to honestly say "I can get the mkh-60 or I can get the Oktava... which should I get?"
I'd say "get both". The Oktava is $165 (with code "DV") so that's peanuts for a mic with the potential for professional results. The mkh-60 is $1300-1400... and it's a shotgun.
I've got 4 hypers because that polar pattern is the most commonly used in my soundkit... 2 of them are Oktavas and 2 of them are $600-700 mics.
The Oktava is a great place to start recording good sound... but don't forget all the support gear such as mount, screen, etc.
Even if you start with the Oktava, you'll still be holding over $500 once it's in a screen, in a mount, and plugged in at the end of a pole.
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the cost of your mic is one third of the mkh -60 , still in that price range there are actually much better microphones .
of course it must be on axis - it is directional microphone , and of course it has to be in the hands of someone know how to boom and get it right inside the suspension to eliminate the low fq rumble .
i think you or the person who work with you need some education on this matter or at least some gaudiness from experience mixer , to eliminate all these bad thing that happened to you .
by the way, this is very hot microphone if you compare to others what doesnt say anything about it audio characteristics , hot output doesnt give you better sound or regect unwanted one , its just grater signal which in some cases may cause overloading the preamp stage of your camera or mixer .
my advice is avoid this mic as much as possible and invest the money in other products in the same price range which are not carry sennheiser logo that rise the price of this **** for nothing .
my advice to you not give advice at least till you actually compare this microphone to others and solve your booman/suspention problems
of course it must be on axis - it is directional microphone , and of course it has to be in the hands of someone know how to boom and get it right inside the suspension to eliminate the low fq rumble .
i think you or the person who work with you need some education on this matter or at least some gaudiness from experience mixer , to eliminate all these bad thing that happened to you .
by the way, this is very hot microphone if you compare to others what doesnt say anything about it audio characteristics , hot output doesnt give you better sound or regect unwanted one , its just grater signal which in some cases may cause overloading the preamp stage of your camera or mixer .
my advice is avoid this mic as much as possible and invest the money in other products in the same price range which are not carry sennheiser logo that rise the price of this **** for nothing .
my advice to you not give advice at least till you actually compare this microphone to others and solve your booman/suspention problems
wabbit
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Sennheiser thought they were pretty clever with their naming scheme. ME66 to MKH60. ME2 to MKE2. They clearly wanted to confuse audio newbies in a manner just like what happened. I guess they know anyone looking for a serious mic won't make the confusion in the opposite direction.
Searching the archieves with "ME66" and "crap" will get you my opinion on that mic
Cracks me up that Schoeps still has their anti-interference tube rant on their website. It's completely accurate but has lost some it's "ours is better then theirs" meaning. Either way they do need to update that "Schoeps has never offered this type of microphone"
Cheers
Searching the archieves with "ME66" and "crap" will get you my opinion on that mic
sandesh said:
Cracks me up that Schoeps still has their anti-interference tube rant on their website. It's completely accurate but has lost some it's "ours is better then theirs" meaning. Either way they do need to update that "Schoeps has never offered this type of microphone"
Cheers