What to buy for Youtube HVX or HD100

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Philip_38

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This is not a joke. I am shooting these 5 min speeches exclusively for web audience, for a political cause in South America. They look like crap. So I sold my assets and got money for either an HVX or a HD100, but after reading the posts here I can not make up my mind. If somebody can help me choose obe over the other, the whole venezuelan nation will be grateful. Here is a link to one of my videos shot with consumer camera (PV GS-400) and keyed with Premiere 2.0.

with some color correction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcH6ZQAxqXc

without any color correction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4-jWYhnqVM

Philip (philiporleans@yahoo.com)
 
Unless you're a gazillionaire, I say go with the cheaper camera.

If you have all of the equipment to operate and edit and convert for an HVX, go for it.
 
personally I'd use a webcam, using such a high end camera is completely pointless, I repeat pointless.

Its like using a burger wrapper that is made up from gold foil.

Anhar
 
I use Premiere Pro and if I buy the HVX there is a way to record directly from the laptop, dvrack, from www.seriousmagic.com. However, I can not make up my mind between the HD100 and the HVX. Any ideas? if you could buy either, which one would create the best impression?
 
I will say one thing because I cannot justify the purchase of an HVX for solely Youtube.

Having a $6000 camera is pretty effin' intimidating.

That is all.
 
but would the HD100 produce a better, not post produced (since I am not a real videographer) video? I also shoot with low lights, in my desk, with a green backdrop. The next question is: would it be any better if I shoot at 12 FPS? or 18? instead of 30 FPS? because I have to compress the outout using H264 which is going to be streamed. Can I shoot progessive in 12 or 18 fps using the HVX? or it would make no difference??
 
Why not buy a DVX for this instead?

You tube is terrible quality... and lower res than even SD video.. so a DVX would be more than enough to work with.
 
Philip_38 said:
I want to get this quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM07aMxt9YM
as you can see, youtube also can be a great free delivery medium
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Wow. I've never seen YouTube videos look this good.

However, I think it has to do more with file formats, and web compression than the original resolution. I think you'd be fine with a DVX, but should learn more about how to get that good of a compression. Maybe ask the person who got that web compression how they did it?

PS: If you find out how they did it please let me know!
 
I have the MOV file and I can get the info:
Format: Audio: AAC, Stereo (L R), 48.000 Khz
Video: H.264 Decoder, 649x360, Millons
movie FPS: 23.98

can I do this good with the DVX?
 
I have seen things that look that good on youtube.

My question to everyone is "Who think that looks good?!?!?"

I think this looks way better: http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/541/dustbrothers.mov

That's only 8mb and you can get much better quality if your willing to go a little bigger file size.

Either ditch youtube, or don't by an HD camera. Buying an a camera capable of high resolution in order to shoot something that will be displayed at a very low resolution is pretty retarded.

the more i think about this the more im convinced this guy is just having fun with us ;)
 
Cheesesailor77 said:
I have seen things that look that good on youtube.

My question to everyone is "Who think that looks good?!?!?"

I think this looks way better: http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/541/dustbrothers.mov

That's only 8mb and you can get much better quality if your willing to go a little bigger file size.
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Well, H.264 is obviously a much better codec than the one YouTube uses. However, in YouTube you get free hosting and a potential audience of millions of viewers. You put up a .mov on your server and unless you tell people about it you're going to get 0 views, and you're paying for that server. In YouTube, you can get thousands of views without advertising the video, and the hosting is free. Also, many more people have Flash installed than Quicktime, so you can reach a larger audience.

That's why I use YouTube, and I would like how to make my movies on there look more like that first screenshot, instead of that second one:

youtubehz8.jpg
 
I am not joking. Politics is a serious business. I am trying to do a good job when I bring a messaga to my people. Shooting my speeches with a PV-Gs400 is awful.
 
so nobody has a definitive opinion on the HVX versus the HD100? should I buy either? Which one is more coplex to learn for a user? I have successfully decoded the panasonic PV-gs400, which is a 3CCD consumer camera, one that works.
 
Well, YouTube automatically applies a compression after you submit the video.

I tested this by submitting a 10MB and a 100MB versions of a video. The 100MB having a better resolution and bit rate, and they both came out looking the same, because of the YouTube compression.

So it's more about the codec you choose plus other factors that I can't figure out which determines how good it looks on YouTube. I know that the less movement the better, so maybe you could keep the graphic of the flag fixed, instead of waving. That would reduce pixelation, other than that you don't really have any other movement in your videos though.

I'd recommend giving a try to just having a fixed picture of a Venezuelan flag in the background and using the settings that the other video you linked to used.

Philip_38 said:
so nobody has a definitive opinion on the HVX versus the HD100? should I buy either? Which one is more coplex to learn for a user? I have successfully decoded the panasonic PV-gs400, which is a 3CCD consumer camera, one that works.
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Going to an HD camera won't have much influence on the YouTube quality because if you go from 640x480 to 1290x1080 or w/e HD is, you'll still get compressed down to like 420x360 with YouTube. Notice that on that video that you linked to that looks great, the file was only 640x360. You can get that size with the camera you already have.
 
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