Clash of the Titns: In Hi-def
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I'm not convinced enough to go out and buy any kind of HD-DVD playback device, but I'm loving my HD service right now.
Enemy of the State rocked hard. Chronicles of Narnia was stunning. I'm ready to go out and get my 40" LCD now...
But I'm waiting for A1 and a suspected price drop.
Enemy of the State rocked hard. Chronicles of Narnia was stunning. I'm ready to go out and get my 40" LCD now...
But I'm waiting for A1 and a suspected price drop.
Cheesesailor77
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the HD movie channels are good? My uncle has them and it looked better then the SD signal on the HDTV, but to me it looked like SD on an SDTV, hardly stunning.
What service do you have?
What service do you have?
Digigenic
Well-known member
With the classics they're doing it right when remastering and transferring to HD.
It would be a sin not to.
Any of the Pixar animated features are unbelievable in HD too.
I don't even watch those kind of movies, but when I saw it pop out in HD, I just stood there like a deer caught in the headlights.
With other films there's still like a 10-15% chance you'll see a shoddy HD version. People in post are either choosing a poor output option, or they tried to simply uprez it and pass it off as HD.
It would be a sin not to.
Any of the Pixar animated features are unbelievable in HD too.
I don't even watch those kind of movies, but when I saw it pop out in HD, I just stood there like a deer caught in the headlights.
With other films there's still like a 10-15% chance you'll see a shoddy HD version. People in post are either choosing a poor output option, or they tried to simply uprez it and pass it off as HD.
donkathon
Carbonite Member
Kholi said:
Kholi, dont make me cry. Why doesnt anyone want to invest in a projector to watch HD. The way I see it, you could be paying the same amount for a 40" LCD than you would for a 10' HD projector. And all you have to do is make sure the room is dark, but with all these new lumen ratings, you dont even need pitch-darkness.
Behold the InFocusIN74EX.
1999.00$, and cheaper on eBay direct from InFocus. Its got everything the LCDs have, except for a little bit pricier (LCD TV ~ 1500-2500 or LCD Monitor ~ 3000-4000). So if youre thinking of getting an LCD, double take... a projector is a very nice thing. And if you were going to buy a monitor rather than a TV, you could go to the higher model of projector).
This one has 1080p/60 and 1080p/30 and 1080p/24 and everything below that. Have your puny LCD beat this DLP badboy.
Oh, and imagine using a 10' screen as you preview monitor when your editing your stuff... of putting the entire NLE on a 10' screen. Id be willing.
Batutta
Major Contributor
Cheesesailor77 said:
Of course it's going to look like SD on an SDTV. You can't get high definition on a low definition TV...I have a 42 inch Sony LCD and HD programming looks AMAZINGLY AWESOME. Barry Lyndon on HDNET was a thing of beauty. House, 24 and most of the evening network shows look phenomenal as well. Some of the sports and nature channels over compress their channels so you get chunky artifacts on fast moving material, but they're getting better. And TNT HD is a joke. Only a small percentage of their stuff is native HD. A lot of it is uprezzed SD, and stretched out to fill a 16:9 frame to the point that it looks like you're watching through a funhouse mirror. I don't know what kind of set up your uncle has, but if its a rinky dink 20 inch HD capable set then no, you're not going to see much difference between good SD and HD.
CallaghanFilms
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I am not a fan of HD in relation to movies at all.
HD for nature documentaries on Discovery? Put it on the ballot - I'll vote for it.
Seeing that Martian terrain on Imax in HD? I'm game. Where do I sign up?
Watching the Steelers win in HD? Nutin' better.
My beloved cinema, on the other hand, I would just as soon leave as is...thank you very much.
HD for nature documentaries on Discovery? Put it on the ballot - I'll vote for it.
Seeing that Martian terrain on Imax in HD? I'm game. Where do I sign up?
Watching the Steelers win in HD? Nutin' better.
My beloved cinema, on the other hand, I would just as soon leave as is...thank you very much.
Cheesesailor77
Veteran
Batutta said:
you misunderstood. My uncle has a nice 42" plasma (panasonic I believe) and HDTV service, and to me the HD movies looked just like the regular cable on the other TVs in the house. Of course when you switch to an SD channel the quality looked much worse.
Cheesesailor77 said:
If the plasma sreen isn't relatively new then I can understand your plight. Up until about July this year, LCD's and Plasmas have been utterly disgusting. I have a CRT and LCD's like the Samsung LN-S series are just now touching CRT quality. Sony Bravias can be included but Samsung makes Sony's LCD screens anyway... and Samsung's televisions produce a better image, suprisingly.
That's probably the problem that you're seeing. Stop my my place in Santa Monica and I'll demo my HD service for you. I've got it connected to where you can get a direct comparison between HD and SD on the same exact movie by the press of a remote button. Trust me, there's a massive difference in quality.
scharky
Veteran
Sounds like your uncle doesn't have his HDTV hooked up right, basically as I understand it, you are saying his HDTV looks worse than other TV's with SD service and equal to other TV's with HD service? That just isn't right. I too have an HD projector and I have to say, there is a huge difference between High quality HD services and standard defenition services.
Callaghan, can't say I understand your reasoning or if your being sarcastic or not, but just what is the current state of your beloved cinema?
Callaghan, can't say I understand your reasoning or if your being sarcastic or not, but just what is the current state of your beloved cinema?
There are a lot of things to consider when you move to projection. Bulb life, placement/mounting, hiding wires/cords/etc. I mean, wireless HDMI is available now but the inFocus projector generally are not (corrected ) HDMI in peripherals. I'd be surprised if this model is even RGB/COmponent. Most are VGA and if you get lucky you'll find a great model with DVI in. I've done my research on projectors and I also have one in my room, even though it's VGA out and RCA out. It's just not worth it to me at the moment.pto2212 said:Kholi, dont make me cry. Why doesnt anyone want to invest in a projector to watch HD. The way I see it, you could be paying the same amount for a 40" LCD than you would for a 10' HD projector. And all you have to do is make sure the room is dark, but with all these new lumen ratings, you dont even need pitch-darkness.
Behold the InFocusIN74EX.
1999.00$, and cheaper on eBay direct from InFocus. Its got everything the LCDs have, except for a little bit pricier (LCD TV ~ 1500-2500 or LCD Monitor ~ 3000-4000). So if youre thinking of getting an LCD, double take... a projector is a very nice thing. And if you were going to buy a monitor rather than a TV, you could go to the higher model of projector).
This one has 1080p/60 and 1080p/30 and 1080p/24 and everything below that. Have your puny LCD beat this DLP badboy.
Oh, and imagine using a 10' screen as you preview monitor when your editing your stuff... of putting the entire NLE on a 10' screen. Id be willing.
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scharky said:
I agree with this. My Standard Def signal looks great when fed from the PVR to the television on an Analog signal... I'm not even taking advantage of my DVI port because it's reserved for my Home Theater PC. But, when I get my 40" Samsung I'll be using one of the HDMI ports for the PVR and I expect another spittle of image quality gain.
Seriously, Cheese. I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm wagering his Television is over one year old or his service is really weak.
CallaghanFilms said:
To each his/her own Callaghan maaaan. I respect your opinion on the matter. Some people like it as is. I'm having a grand old time watching Enemy of the State in Hi-Def. It's not just uprezzed from SD, it fills my 16:9 Television to the edge and is seriously hi-def.
So hi-def that I can see the camera shaking on close-up scenes. Just jittering and I'm like "ouch."
I've seen that with a few movies, as well. And I have the DVD and I can't see it at all on those scenes.
pto2212 said:That projector is HDMI and DVI and component. Atleast the infocus website says so. It says is has an HDMI input and a DVI input and Comonent input.
That's a pretty good looking tail-end it's got there. I'm too lazy to find the web link, where's it at?
It'd be neat to find out the tech specs on it. Lumens? Lamp life? Etc?
donkathon
Carbonite Member
OK, Im in a generous mood.
1000 max ANSI lumens
Lamp Life- 3000 hours
Native 16:9
.65" DLP chip
3000:1 Contrast Ratio
or be unappreciative, and go here: http://www.infocus.com/Products/Projectors/IN74EX.aspx
1000 max ANSI lumens
Lamp Life- 3000 hours
Native 16:9
.65" DLP chip
3000:1 Contrast Ratio
or be unappreciative, and go here: http://www.infocus.com/Products/Projectors/IN74EX.aspx
Cheesesailor77
Veteran
scharky said:
ugh, I give up lol
I looked up that projector and while it does support 1080p, the chip it only 1024x576. So basically it's not much more then standered DVD rez, although 1080p movies are VIEWABLE, you just wont get to see the extra rez.
Their 720p projector is $1000 more, and their site doesn't even list a native 1080p projector (other companies sell 1080p projectors in the $5000-10,000 range). I'm a big projector fan, I will never buy an HDTV if I can get a projector (i have the infocus4805 and love it) but since I've looked into HD projectors, they're still not much cheaper, if at all.