HDX900 --- Why is no one talking about it?

Why should a millionaire (billionaire...?) with a reputable name and enterprise go out open with sth he can`t fulfill?
And what if the RED team will have to delay some things?
Big budget will keep filming 35mm or existing HD.
Low budget has a variety of "baby" HD cameras to choose from.
No budget will take whatever is at hand.
Last years IBC showed a half working HVX, guess what is sitting next to my monitor...
I just don`t get your point SwissPAL.
 
Kind of hard to have footage when it is still under development.

But I hope as time goes on, more people think like you SwissPal, in fact I can think of about 171 people that need to start thinking like you.
 
There's nothing to talk about, maybe nobody's buying it, maybe people are waiting for the P2 version, maybe people are too busy doing stuff with them to stop and talk about them, maybe they aren't out yet, maybe nobody cares about them, or maybe people are too busy talking about the RED to notice.

In any case, I think this thread is dead or should be rebooted to get back on topic.
 
I've got another issue with Red. How much do you think it will cost to implement Red into your workflow...or rather, how much equipment would you need to buy and upgrade in order to accomodate the Red's series of high resolution images? I'm talking just to load 2K/4K footage into your system to cut. If you offline it, how long will it take to convert the footage into useable clips?

I'm sorry, but I'll take the Infinium Labs Phantom as a paradigm here. Prospective first time game console manufacturers claiming they will be able to do more and do it cheaper...three, four years go by, they keep releasing 3D computer rendered images of what it is *supposed* to look like when it's released. They take investors' money to keep funding their project and pocket plenty of it in the process.

I'll take a company like Panasonic at their word, but not a first time player...where there would be no penalty to wait for professional reviews. I don't see any advantage to snapping up the first Red cameras off the assembly line. It'll probably be buggy as hell...and it'll probably not be until Red 2 or 3 that the camera will work flawlessly. The HVX is the logical successor to one of the most successful cameras of all time, the DVX100. I don't see how you could go wrong with the HVX, where the Red has danger written all over it. I wouldn't put down your money on a pre-order, much less mine.
 
This cam isnt really for what we do here, it looks like it would be used for HD news broadcasting or College Football, but not Independent films
 
AllAroundFilmLV said:
This cam isnt really for what we do here, it looks like it would be used for HD news broadcasting or College Football, but not Independent films
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If the SDX900 was/is used for Indy films and it is, and if the Varicam is used for Indy films and it is, then indeed this camera, the HDX900 will also be used for Indy films.

Best,

Jan
 
Is this camera released or available yet? I read that it was officially released on July 24th, and now over a month later, not one single rental house in LA has one. Nor is it available for purchase.
Where is it, Jan?!
 
For the record, my independent film, "War & Truth" was shot almost exclusively with the SDX-900 and I continually get comments about how great the picture quality is.

My second film will absolutely be filmed with the HDX900. As a documentary filmmaker I could record to tape by day and transfer the clips I want to a hard drive at night. Three years ago I never would have dreamed I could be editing HD in the field WITHOUT an expensive deck.

I have been lurking a lot of forums today and there is a LOT of discussion about the HDX900. I agree with everyone that RED sounds very intriguing but in the meantime, DVCPRO has a proven track record and a post production work flow that works NOW!

The very second I have the budget to buy the HDX900 I am buying one! I can't wait for my DVX100a to meet it's big brother.

That's my two cents,
Michael Samstag
Director, War & Truth
http://www.underfirefilms.com
 
THese cameras are a far cry in a shallow dream for me. Saving for another will surely make me go homeless. And I don't think I can fit in my DVX box :) But I do like to drool over the specs you guys provide.
 
fiercecurry said:
Is this camera released or available yet? I read that it was officially released on July 24th, and now over a month later, not one single rental house in LA has one. Nor is it available for purchase.
Where is it, Jan?!
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We have been shipping, but you need to realize, it too was heavily backordered, so it may not be at your favorite dealership and some dealers do not have it in their venue to resell. This camera is available through our Flagship dealers only, which narrows the field of dealers quite a bit, but it is with those dealers that have made their reputation as a "systems" dealer, not "box house<" if you know what I mean.


Anyhow, it does promise to be the upgrade to the SDX900, that many have been waiting for, and even in that seems to kick it up a notch.

Hope this helps,

Jan
 
kgb said:
I've got another issue with Red. How much do you think it will cost to implement Red into your workflow...or rather, how much equipment would you need to buy and upgrade in order to accomodate the Red's series of high resolution images? I'm talking just to load 2K/4K footage into your system to cut. If you offline it, how long will it take to convert the footage into useable clips?
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..from what i understand of it at this point, anyone with a respectable HD editing suite would be able to edit the naitive footage off of a RED camera by using REDCODE. there wouldnt really be any additional purchases needed unless you wanted to edit uncompressed for some undecernable to the human eye difference. 2K is essentially the same thing as 1080p for all practical purposes, and 4K with redcode isnt going to choke a decent system when you can edit REDCODE naitive, or simply use the REDCINE software app to convert it to QT or AVI. personally i would just edit the REDCODE naitive as i believe that visibly lossless intraframe wavelet compression is the bees knees.
 
Jan_Crittenden said:
If the SDX900 was/is used for Indy films and it is
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It was and it is the best SD example that I saw @big_screen (truly cinematic):
http://www3.ifcfilms.com/theedukators/

EDIT -- great definition (sharp) even SD; colorimeter; latitude and lowlighting properties (I would like to see a 2/3" 1440 x 1080 chip @HVX: it would be an unbeatable offer)
 
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EDIT -- great definition (sharp) even SD; colorimeter; latitude and lowlighting properties (I would like to see a 2/3" 1440 x 1080 chip @HVX: it would be an unbeatable offer)
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you should check out the new HDX900. its pretty much along those lines
 
Neil Rowe said:
you should check out the new HDX900. its pretty much along those lines
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I believe but aside my RED commitment I'm afraid the tape will not be the future. Though there is the FOCUS FireStore FS-100 hard disk recorder. Nevertheless, the purchaser is buying a useless feature (tape recording) if he doesn't believe or doesn't want it. But I think this will be a good option for who is already into the DVCPRO HD format like the broadcast range companies that are handling with this tape format. So, it's more a product thought to the past rather the future.
 
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