Premiere Pro 2.0 - how good is it compared to other NLEs?
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SilverWolf
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This topic has been discussed greatly but since you are not changing platforms FCP isn't relative to the answer anymore. That pretty much leaves you with Avid, Vegas, Premiere and a couple of others. I guess to answer your question I would have to know when the last time you used premiere was because compared to premiere 6.5 pro 2.0 has made large leaps and bounds but if the last one you used was 1.5 it just made some good improvements. I use Premeire and I like it very well. One of the main reasons I picked it is because it's so similar to FCP so when I do switch to mac it will be an easier transition but to each his own
Capt Quirk
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I haven't really played the field too much, played with Vegas a few years ago, as well as Canopus Storm Edit, and a few of those freebie bundle NLEs like Studio. Out of them all, I found Premiere the most intuitive, even if it made me want to pull my hair out on occasion. I figured if my wife can frustrate me and I still keep her, why not Premiere? It ain't nowhere near as lippy as she is 
Leap ahead a few versions, and Pro2 isn't as simple as the earlier versions, but still fairly straight forward, and even more capable. So I guess what you need to do, is download a few demos, and see what suits you.
Leap ahead a few versions, and Pro2 isn't as simple as the earlier versions, but still fairly straight forward, and even more capable. So I guess what you need to do, is download a few demos, and see what suits you.
I decided to stay with Premiere when they went to premiere pro and now I'm glad that I did. With the improvements made with the entire video suite and with the gui I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
I hope you're considering the entire suite from a financial standpoint. The intergration among all of the Adobe applications and having the ability to email clips through acrobat and receive instant feedback from your clients can really be helpful. And finally the multicam editing, and the ability to import multible formats on the same timeline, well you get the picture! However if you plan to have mulitple applications open at the same time you might consider having about 4Gigs of ram. Having a few apps opened with large files simultaneously caused a 3.4 gig w/2gig of ram to slow and almost lock up. As for me I waiting for my suite to come in the mail.
I think the reality is; What are you going to be comfortable with.
Hope this helps.
I hope you're considering the entire suite from a financial standpoint. The intergration among all of the Adobe applications and having the ability to email clips through acrobat and receive instant feedback from your clients can really be helpful. And finally the multicam editing, and the ability to import multible formats on the same timeline, well you get the picture! However if you plan to have mulitple applications open at the same time you might consider having about 4Gigs of ram. Having a few apps opened with large files simultaneously caused a 3.4 gig w/2gig of ram to slow and almost lock up. As for me I waiting for my suite to come in the mail.
I think the reality is; What are you going to be comfortable with.
Hope this helps.
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John Morgan
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Draccan,
I've only used Speed Razor, Discreet Edit and now Premiere Pro beginning with version 1.0 so I can't make objective comparisons for you. But I CAN say Premiere has taken the best of both (even though there's a few things missing from each) and become a very wonderful set of tools, when you consider the entire Adobe Production Suite.
That said, when you add Axio (hardware acceleration, more I/O's, more codecs, more native formats, more RT and FX) to the mix, Premiere Pro becomes just plain stunning, particularly if you use an HVX200 camera!!
See my recent post announcing the new features of Axio 2.5 here:
http://www.matrox.com/video/products/pdf/Axio_whats_new.pdf
John
I've only used Speed Razor, Discreet Edit and now Premiere Pro beginning with version 1.0 so I can't make objective comparisons for you. But I CAN say Premiere has taken the best of both (even though there's a few things missing from each) and become a very wonderful set of tools, when you consider the entire Adobe Production Suite.
That said, when you add Axio (hardware acceleration, more I/O's, more codecs, more native formats, more RT and FX) to the mix, Premiere Pro becomes just plain stunning, particularly if you use an HVX200 camera!!
See my recent post announcing the new features of Axio 2.5 here:
http://www.matrox.com/video/products/pdf/Axio_whats_new.pdf
John
i use the adobe creative suite. 2.0 or whatever were on now. i think its verey capeable and the integration with AE, photoshop, audition, encore, imageready, and adobe bridge is really really nice. you can just take a clip of audio and edit it in audition and then send it back to PPRO seamlessly, same thing with video and PSD files and all that other stuff that almost every project consists of. it all comes together nicely. it does bother me that PPRo doesnt support the HVX and MXF naitivley, but raylight works really well on my setup, so once ive quickly converted the files its just like editing anything else. all in all im pretty happy with it, but again. naitive MXF would be stellar.
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Why do you say you don't like Avid? Specifics.
Kyle Stebbins
AD GURU
I've toyed with Avid, FCP, Premiere and Vegas... objectively i would tell you that if you want to use something that's industry standard, use Avid or FCP. I don't have a Mac but if I did, I would throw everything out the window and use FCP (primarily because it renders so beautifully in h.264!!!) -- that being said, I am a Premiere user... have been for a couple years. To me, you can do the same stuff in of those programs. Vegas comes bundled with several style effects and FCP comes with some as well whereas Premiere comes with very few. Also, though, you need to realize that Premiere has plenty of plugins available all over the net to buy/try.
Ultimately, man. If you have a PC, download the demos for Avid, Premiere, and Vegas. If you have a mac, grab a trial of FCP. Feel them out. If you have to choose between the major four, the only way to make the best choice (for you!) is to try each one of them out.
Some of the best features of each program:
Vegas - probably one of the coolest things about Vegas is that you can share scripts with other Vegas users... they can be used to automate any task, like plugins, effects, transitions. in this regard it is very opensource. plus, like i mentioned before, you can do cool built-in effects (presets) like light rays, or old-film -- each plugins that come bundled with the software. (often times I'm tempted to edit certain clips in Vegas just to use it's effects, and then bring it back into Premiere to nest into my sequences)
Avid - [FONT=Helvetica, Geneva, Arial, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]DNxHD. Enough said =) ---> Also, the mojo is incredible (for a hefty amount of money extra -- still worth it) as it gives you the ability to edit without having to wait for previews to render when your clips get full of effects or plugins. Other systems have hardware like this, but the Mojo is so well designed and so effective that it's difficult to rank them as high. Not to mention, Avid is used everywhere. If you want to land a job as an editor at a production company, it's almost guaranteed that you will be required to have knowledge of Avid (or FCP).
Premiere Pro - It's almost like inviting Photoshop, After Effects, Audition, Encore, and Acrobat all to a huge party. Throw in a few kegs (your footage) and get the party started!! Like mentioned before, it's all seamless! You can import .psd files into your project folder in Premiere and edit each layer INDEPENDENTLY!! Amongst many other seamless features, in After Effects you can import a PP project file and get the same timeline as you had in Premiere... .psd layers and all!! =)
FCP - with features like [/FONT]RT Extreme, livetype, cinema tools, and many more, FCP takes the cake as one of the best NLE systems on the market today. I, along with many users here, would consider FCP to be just as industry standard as Avid. (believe me, it's hard to say that as a Premiere user...) =)
FCP has it's own seamless features with Shake (sole separately), a program that allows you to share data between editing and effects as well as Motion.
Disclaimer: I'm in no way a PROFESSIONAL using any of these systems (except i'm proficient in Premiere) so I might be wrong... or worse, I probably missed several key features... but I can only hope this gives a little more insight into each program by themselves.
Now go download the demos!!!
cheers! -kyle
Ultimately, man. If you have a PC, download the demos for Avid, Premiere, and Vegas. If you have a mac, grab a trial of FCP. Feel them out. If you have to choose between the major four, the only way to make the best choice (for you!) is to try each one of them out.
Some of the best features of each program:
Vegas - probably one of the coolest things about Vegas is that you can share scripts with other Vegas users... they can be used to automate any task, like plugins, effects, transitions. in this regard it is very opensource. plus, like i mentioned before, you can do cool built-in effects (presets) like light rays, or old-film -- each plugins that come bundled with the software. (often times I'm tempted to edit certain clips in Vegas just to use it's effects, and then bring it back into Premiere to nest into my sequences)
Avid - [FONT=Helvetica, Geneva, Arial, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]DNxHD. Enough said =) ---> Also, the mojo is incredible (for a hefty amount of money extra -- still worth it) as it gives you the ability to edit without having to wait for previews to render when your clips get full of effects or plugins. Other systems have hardware like this, but the Mojo is so well designed and so effective that it's difficult to rank them as high. Not to mention, Avid is used everywhere. If you want to land a job as an editor at a production company, it's almost guaranteed that you will be required to have knowledge of Avid (or FCP).
Premiere Pro - It's almost like inviting Photoshop, After Effects, Audition, Encore, and Acrobat all to a huge party. Throw in a few kegs (your footage) and get the party started!! Like mentioned before, it's all seamless! You can import .psd files into your project folder in Premiere and edit each layer INDEPENDENTLY!! Amongst many other seamless features, in After Effects you can import a PP project file and get the same timeline as you had in Premiere... .psd layers and all!! =)
FCP - with features like [/FONT]RT Extreme, livetype, cinema tools, and many more, FCP takes the cake as one of the best NLE systems on the market today. I, along with many users here, would consider FCP to be just as industry standard as Avid. (believe me, it's hard to say that as a Premiere user...) =)
FCP has it's own seamless features with Shake (sole separately), a program that allows you to share data between editing and effects as well as Motion.
Disclaimer: I'm in no way a PROFESSIONAL using any of these systems (except i'm proficient in Premiere) so I might be wrong... or worse, I probably missed several key features... but I can only hope this gives a little more insight into each program by themselves.
Now go download the demos!!!
cheers! -kyle
