Advice for when apply for a job, any job

ncj - sure, any information is always good, remember, we are a small
3 person office here, the rest of staff all hispanic (I don't hire housekeepers,
headhousekeepers do).

Being in a skater town doesn't help. Being in a surfing town doesn't help either.
The mentality here is so different.

Gawd, you'll love this story. We hired a guy to lay carpet. We caught him looking out
at the waves, asked him if he was alright. He said he was just taking a break.
At lunch he left the job and went surfing all afternoon.

I NEVER had that happen anywhere. Quirkly little beach town.
 
Charli,
I totally agree with you about dressing up for an interview. It is important. I feel like you dont just need to dress up, you need to look good. You can't just rock up in some 'nice' clothes you bought at walmart and think that that is going to get you a creative position. You need to be dressed sharp and fashionable. Although, I feel like you can wear jeans, as long as they are NICE jeans.

Having a list a questions is another very good plan. I carry a little notebook with me everywhere, and before a big interview or client meeting, I'll write down a bunch of questions to ask the potential employer/client. I know for a fact, that that is how I got my first two real gigs on a production team.
 
Charli said:
Being in a skater town doesn't help. Being in a surfing town doesn't help either.
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Being known as "the town where hippies go to die" probably has something to do with it too
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I agree with you Charli, and yet I cant help but feel like maybe we are letting our youth down. Allot of parents dont take the time to instruct in either the high or low social circles, teachers sometimes become walking paychecks and discard their own students just by the way they look. And well, we feel either that it isnt our responsibility to take the time to instruct or that we are doing justice to that person by showing them a lesson. How many more lessons could that kid with the visor have learned under your instruction? I mean, i'm sure you must get some ignorant no-nothings but what happens when we can clearly see they have heart and no instruction? Do we shun them or tell them, come see me again, but lesson number 1: dress acordingly!

ncje, you live in Tokyo, how is it that so many Japanese are well endowed with intelligence and professional etiquette, it cant be coincidence can it? In spain most kids get their bachelors at 17. So why are we so behind and think we're so ahead?

Of course, i don't mean every case you guys ever encountered but there has to be exceptions out there. the downfall of our youth is folly to our own sense of Instruction and standards from what we were taught, we become prejudiced against someone who has no standards at all (again, in our opinion). The hispanic housekeepers hired other hispanics, why? Because how they looked or because of communication or because they are hard workers? If someone came in dressed in armani, clearly a genius but speaking like bernie mac... then what? Imagine a blind person... how would they hire someone?
Anyway, I argue this for the sake of enlightment (for either of us), please dont take me as a jerk.
 
Glimmer - none taken.

The student with the visor could have learned much from me, but rather, I
focused my attention on the ones who were prepared. One of my former
employees told me that she knew exactly how to interview at Ernst & Young
because I helped coach her through the process.

Each student who has made it here gets a plethora of information from me,
about life, work, whatever. I become their mentor.

I however am not set to be everyone's mentor, mother, or teacher. To get
the gift of my time, which is most precious to me, you have to first get
through the doors.

I am not here to do a disservice to our pool of students, but having reached
a state of higher learning, I EXPECT more from them than maybe they do of
themselves.

I wonder why the parents don't get more involved until I look at one of my
friends here, probably one of the most self invovled people I know, and then
I am reminded, "oh yeah, this is California."
 
It's just common sense or lack of parenting.

Cut your hair
Put on some Dockers and a button up
Shave that Peach Fuzz off of your face

Even in Construction (I was Tile Setter for 5 years) wear long pants (Jeans or Khakis) but wear a tucked-in button up if if applying for helper or apprentice)

And fill out the application in detail; call previous employers and get the spcific dates and positions worked, get fill address and contact numbers of all information

Attaching a resume is even better
 
Thank you Charli, you were curteous and informative in all your responses.
I understand now exactly what you mean, and I am inclined towards your opinion. You will hear no more from me.

Plus, John Hudson has spoken... so it shall be written, so shall be done!:thumbsup:
 
John - I want to hire you, marry you, no, I want to clone you!

Glimmer - it's all good.
 
John_Hudson said:
Shave that Peach Fuzz off of your face
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This reminds me of that commercial where the guy has that really long beard that's reaching for the Reeces pieces (I think) in the job interview...
 
I'd say it comes down to this: Know your audience and dress a little better than they do. If this company to which you're applying usually dresses business casual, do the same or go up a notch to be safe. I work at an ad agency. If you come in here with khakis and a golf shirt I'm going to peg you as an account management dweeb. (Unless you're just out of school. I forgive being overdressed at that point.) So when I'm out on an interview, I bust out the Lucky jeans instead of the Lee's. It's the subtle things that count. :)

Fox
 
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