Hans Moleman
Carbonite Member
Tribes of the ivory coast; couple thousand years of institutionalized slavery. can't beat that.
It’s against the law to take picture of police
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valdez
Active member
Wow guys,
I was going to gingerly add my views but it's become a "Big-Word-A-Thon" testosterone thing. Always ends up like this in the Doc forums, huh? Remember, though, as in our filmmaking the subtleties and nuances are what take our messages the furthest so don't you all think it best to just be civil and try to express your views without this big-headed, psuedo-intillectual name-calling.
Anyway to get back to the thread, uh, yeah the case sucks and is totally rediculous. If a cop thinks he's doing something that shouldn't be photographed than he probably needs to be photographed. Thier jobs are to uphold the law and they know it, so good judgement aside thiers no excuse for that type of behaviour in this country. Plus all this "post 9/11" talk people like to use is a bunch of poo.
There aren't "terrorists" walking our neighborhood streets blowing stuff up everywhere; only thing that changed is that theres this overblown excuse for cops and politicians to be all trigger happy about everything, it's no good. I have a close Pakistani Friend who's broke up with a girlfriend once so she called the FBI and told them he was a "terrorist". He was then carted off and interrogated extensively, then let go. This stuff just isn't ok in the name of "Post 9/11".
People need to chill, especially cops with this nonsense. I know they're people but as professionals they're expected (rightfully so) to know how to deal with thier emotional issues outside of work. It's not our Job to tip toe around them so they feel comfortable, if anything it should be thiers.
I was going to gingerly add my views but it's become a "Big-Word-A-Thon" testosterone thing. Always ends up like this in the Doc forums, huh? Remember, though, as in our filmmaking the subtleties and nuances are what take our messages the furthest so don't you all think it best to just be civil and try to express your views without this big-headed, psuedo-intillectual name-calling.
Anyway to get back to the thread, uh, yeah the case sucks and is totally rediculous. If a cop thinks he's doing something that shouldn't be photographed than he probably needs to be photographed. Thier jobs are to uphold the law and they know it, so good judgement aside thiers no excuse for that type of behaviour in this country. Plus all this "post 9/11" talk people like to use is a bunch of poo.
There aren't "terrorists" walking our neighborhood streets blowing stuff up everywhere; only thing that changed is that theres this overblown excuse for cops and politicians to be all trigger happy about everything, it's no good. I have a close Pakistani Friend who's broke up with a girlfriend once so she called the FBI and told them he was a "terrorist". He was then carted off and interrogated extensively, then let go. This stuff just isn't ok in the name of "Post 9/11".
People need to chill, especially cops with this nonsense. I know they're people but as professionals they're expected (rightfully so) to know how to deal with thier emotional issues outside of work. It's not our Job to tip toe around them so they feel comfortable, if anything it should be thiers.
robot909
Well-known member
Today I was shooting some test/stock footage, and decided to film the local county jail, before I even set up all the way, two cops already started approaching me and asking questions. Can any one recommend some places to school up on my rights and what to do in situations like this? I read the document from the earlier post
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
thanks!
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
thanks!
GenJerDan
Veteran
Be polite. Be nice. Explain what you're doing. Ask if there is an ordinance regarding filming. There may be. Even though there isn't a blanket law about filming in public places, there may be one about filming jails and such.
Hassles from cops for stuff like this probably isn't them being jerks in most cases. Probably them just not knowing, but they heard from someone else who heard from someone else who heard from someone else that filming isn't allowed.
Hassles from cops for stuff like this probably isn't them being jerks in most cases. Probably them just not knowing, but they heard from someone else who heard from someone else who heard from someone else that filming isn't allowed.
Capt Quirk
Veteran
I may be new here, but I have been around. It always disturbs me, to watch OUR civil servants take the law into their own hands.
An off duty Sherriff follows a woman into a restaurant parking lot, and starts verbally attacking her at the top of his lungs. The woman's husband was there to have lunch with her, and sees a man attacking his wife. When he walks over to find out what is going on, the Sherriff pulls a gun, slams the husband onto the car, and arrests him. This "officer of the law" is the second highest paid member of the Brevard County Sherriff's Department, something we pay for with our taxes. He is guilty of road rage, assault, battery, and false arrest and imprisonment. And yet nothing has happened to him.
I can barely afford to gas up and run errands, because some oil exec wants to retire with some $400 million in his pocket. Yet, I see on duty and off duty officers driving around town, doing laundry, picking up their kids, going shopping- all in their cruiser, the one my taxes pay for, and fill up. If I'm doing 10-15 miles over the speed limit, I get pulled over and will likely get a ticket. Yet I also see these "officers" consistantly speeding, and even run red lights, all with no siren or lights, and no apparent reason.
What is this world coming to? You can't even photograph or video them, because they are afraid you might have physical proof of their wrongdoing? Without it, it is your word against their's, you will lose.
An off duty Sherriff follows a woman into a restaurant parking lot, and starts verbally attacking her at the top of his lungs. The woman's husband was there to have lunch with her, and sees a man attacking his wife. When he walks over to find out what is going on, the Sherriff pulls a gun, slams the husband onto the car, and arrests him. This "officer of the law" is the second highest paid member of the Brevard County Sherriff's Department, something we pay for with our taxes. He is guilty of road rage, assault, battery, and false arrest and imprisonment. And yet nothing has happened to him.
I can barely afford to gas up and run errands, because some oil exec wants to retire with some $400 million in his pocket. Yet, I see on duty and off duty officers driving around town, doing laundry, picking up their kids, going shopping- all in their cruiser, the one my taxes pay for, and fill up. If I'm doing 10-15 miles over the speed limit, I get pulled over and will likely get a ticket. Yet I also see these "officers" consistantly speeding, and even run red lights, all with no siren or lights, and no apparent reason.
What is this world coming to? You can't even photograph or video them, because they are afraid you might have physical proof of their wrongdoing? Without it, it is your word against their's, you will lose.
Camera Expert
Well-known member
I didn’t mean just videotaping cops wrong doings, I was also mentioning videotaping in public places in general, for example me being called by a police officer because I was videotaping airplanes in the sky as I mentioned in another post. Because the police officer has my information since I was told to show him my ID, I’m probably on some type of watch list.
Here is something I have said in another camcorder forum.
Back then you could videotape almost anything you want but good camcorders were very expensive and now that prices have fallen dramatically on new camcorders, you are now being more restrictive with the camcorder.
Last year when I was in the Azores I done some videotaping in the Airport and there were other people doing the same thing without any problems what so ever. Now imagine videotaping inside a US Airport without any permission and see what happens to you.
When I was in college, one of my instructors told the class that every time he was out with some students practicing videotaping skills on ducks, trees, and flowers at a public park in Boston, the park rangers would sometimes tell him to stop.
If you were to ever come to the Boston area, you’d be surprised to see surveillance cameras everywhere but yet it can sometimes be a hassle if a US citizen wants to do some shooting themselves. To me a surveillance camera can sometimes be more invasive especially knowing that some institutions are allowed to put surveillance cameras in bathrooms.
Here is something I have said in another camcorder forum.
Back then you could videotape almost anything you want but good camcorders were very expensive and now that prices have fallen dramatically on new camcorders, you are now being more restrictive with the camcorder.
Last year when I was in the Azores I done some videotaping in the Airport and there were other people doing the same thing without any problems what so ever. Now imagine videotaping inside a US Airport without any permission and see what happens to you.
When I was in college, one of my instructors told the class that every time he was out with some students practicing videotaping skills on ducks, trees, and flowers at a public park in Boston, the park rangers would sometimes tell him to stop.
If you were to ever come to the Boston area, you’d be surprised to see surveillance cameras everywhere but yet it can sometimes be a hassle if a US citizen wants to do some shooting themselves. To me a surveillance camera can sometimes be more invasive especially knowing that some institutions are allowed to put surveillance cameras in bathrooms.
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Five Eyes
Member
I've been following this topic for bit and am surprised no one has brought up Copwatch. These (somewhat organised) groups go into neighborhoods known for police misconduct and videotape incidents. Texas Copwatch describes Copwatch as "a group of ordinary people who observe and record police activity on the streets. We do this because we believe that police brutality is widespread in our communities and that the only way to stop it is to challenge it directly." They're trained to be non-confrontational but approach situations actively; getting arrest details, badge numbers, witnesses' names and all the while videotaping everything that happens.
Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copwatch for particulars if you're interested. Check some of the linked sites out, many have the legal particulars about our rights to monitor public servants.
Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copwatch for particulars if you're interested. Check some of the linked sites out, many have the legal particulars about our rights to monitor public servants.
Capt Quirk
Veteran
Down here, there was an independant board set up to monitor the Orlando Sherriff's department. The Sherriff's department is sueing to get the board disbanded.
And in our local news, a volunteer fire fighter has dissapeared, after testifying against her Deputy Sherriff husband on charges of drugs. Gee... that isn't at all suspicious.
And in our local news, a volunteer fire fighter has dissapeared, after testifying against her Deputy Sherriff husband on charges of drugs. Gee... that isn't at all suspicious.