using a lav for both a lectrosonic and xlr connector?

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matthewd5

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hello.

i already have two sanken cos-11 lav's

i love the lav's and i'm going to be upgrading from the senn g2 in the not too distant future.

i know that gotham will cut off the xlr ends and convert them to the lectrosonic connectors but what is the easiest way to adapt them back when i want to use them with a regular xlr cable right into my mixer?

they mentioned an ambient emp5l and that is a little over $100 and i was wondering if there was a simpler way to make the mics back into xlr?

matthew
 
ive followed up on this a bit before, inserting breaks into the xlr line seems to be a solution (like mic - >ta5f and ta5m - > XLR).
 
timapter, what you posted seems a LOT more straightforward not to mention less expensive than the other solution...

the other solution seems seems unnecessarily complicated...

it involves cutting off the existing factory xlr connector and then putting on a lectrosonic 5pin female connector.

and then if you want to go back to xlr you buy an ambient emp5l adaptor which is over $100 and then you plug that into the lectro 5pin female.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...246&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

the only plus to doing it the way where you either buy a pigtail lav or cut off the xlr and put on the lectro 5 pin female and then use the ambient adaptor to go xlr/non-wireless is that when you are using it with the lectro wireless you just have that one plug into the transmitter to worry about.

with the cutting of the mic wire and putting in the lectro 5 pin female and lectro 5 pin male and then having the xlr connector on the end there is a chance that they could possibly come disconnected?

i haven't worked with the lectrosonic connectors, are they like the ta3f and ta3m that i have on my sound devices stuff where there is a definite click as the connector locks in place?

plus i wouldn't be buying just one of these, it would be at least 2 initially and ultimately i would really like to have 4 pairs of lectrosonic 401 or preferably 411 receivers and at least one of my transmitters will be the SM model.

i checked out the sm transmitter at gotham and i just love the size and the fact that it is made out of a solid billet of aluminum. so i figured that when i order my first set of lectrosonic i'll get one of the SM transmitters

but on those occasions when you don't need to go wireless i would prefer to just hardwire the lav's.

am i missing something here? do people just use the lectrosonic wireless all the time and just abandon using their lav's hardwired?

i can see how it might be an attractive option not having to keep track of all these wired actors but it seems to me it would over complicate things and be a pain to have to keep watching the battery levels in the transmitters.

matthew
 
SM are great but you might check out the MM400b. Only slightly bigger but is completely waterproof and built like a tank. Two downsides are the battery last about 1/2 hour less and you can't get the remote control option. With Seattle's consistent wet weather and not having to worry about talent dumping your tx in the toilet, it is worth the compromise for me.

Of course I haven't had a chance to use the remote option and that might be pretty sweet too.

Also, I have noticed that Gotham has 2 used MM400a with B6 for a good price. http://www.gothamsound.com/main.shtml?page=usedgear Save you quite a bit o cash there...if I don't snatch them up first :)

Cheers
 
matt -

yup, ta5 is a locking connector, basically the same as ta3 but with 2 extra pins, so no worries about becoming diconnected.

To be honest, the lectro systems are so damn clean (esp 4xx and up), that it becomes a bit of a chore to use wired lavs once you have them. Ive been thinking same as you for quite a while on the dual use of lavs thing, but havent yet done it. Oleg has told me that it IS an option though to put a break in system into the line.
 
timapter said:
AAAAAAH! I missed a CS-3e! Why!?!?!
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:lipsrseal Don't feel too bad, I think it sold pretty quick. I check in there about once a week and it was sold before I even noticed it.
 
Let this go on the record:

Im looking for a CS-3e. I get depressed when I see sh*t like that. Damn.

:)

But you are right about those transmitters... if they were on my block Id buy them without even thinking.

PS - ordered two b6's today. they will probably be among the first in South Africa, so Im pretty stoked about that. Only ones Ive used before were borrowed from a features guy here...
 
Sorry (was not me though).

Keep your eyes peeled here http://www.colossalsound.com/prod01.htm , I believe I have seen 2 CS3e pass thru there in the last 6 months or so. I think the best place to watch for or request used audio gear these days is a certain forum run by Jeff W :happy:

Cheers
 
I did forget one other downside of the mm400: the connector is unique and requires a more expensive process to wire up (to make it completely waterproof). You can buy an adaptor for your standard Lectro connectors but then it won't be entirely waterproof where they connect.

Cheers
 
when the time comes i'm almost certain that i will get the sm transmitter and the ucr 411 receiver.

i will of course rent a pair of that setup for a weekend to make sure it works out as well as i think it will.

also, with the lectrosonics, is their 400 series plug on transmitter something that you would consider good enough to use on a senn 416 on a boom for an outdoor shot where the boom would be able to operate a LOT easier if it were untethered?

matthew
 
yes, the 400 series plug on tx is a killer piece of gear, it really is. For something like reality or run and gun, i'd really recommend it. It goes without saying that you avoid wireless links where possible, but the lectro 4xx stuff just gets so good that it becomes harder in situations that are difficult to convince yourself to run a cable.
 
timapter said:
PS - ordered two b6's today. they will probably be among the first in South Africa, so Im pretty stoked about that.
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me too, after the shootout I ordered 2 b6's, and I think they'll be the only ones in scotland!
 
i love that feeling, im not sure if its the same in scotland, but a lot of my gear is almost unique here. the downside of course is service, but most pro gear is pretty damn reliable.

let me know how you find the b6's and ill do the same...
 
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