Will Paralell/Bootcamp allow me to use all my PC Progs on Mac
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The Machinist
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Parallels may have some issues. I think they're still working on perfecting graphics. It's still a virtualization program albeit a great one.
Boot Camp is not virtualization it is installing the actual Windows OS on a mac thereby turning your mac into a PC whenever you boot in Windows. I have not done it myself yet but as I understand it you have all the advantages and access to software and such that you get with any PC.
Boot Camp is not virtualization it is installing the actual Windows OS on a mac thereby turning your mac into a PC whenever you boot in Windows. I have not done it myself yet but as I understand it you have all the advantages and access to software and such that you get with any PC.
ChrisForbes
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Like viruses, the blue screen of death, trojan programs etc.
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The Machinist said:
Like viruses, the blue screen of death, trojan programs etc.
The Machinist
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Hahaha.
I wasn't going to say it but thank you.
I wasn't going to say it but thank you.
Kegan
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I just started running Boot Camp recently and had quite a few problems which were my fault up to a point. I originally tried to install Windows XP without SP2 even though it says not to, and it froze every so often but it did install. The drivers for the Mac hardware did not though.
I ended up having to slipstream SP2 into the XP disc and re-burning it to make it work. Having that said, it installed fine, ran fine and I installed a few programs like Photoshop and MacDrive without any problems.
The only other problems I did encounter were when I rebooted and used OS X for a while and tried to go back into Windows, it froze on a black screen causing me to shut off the laptop and restart it. Booting into Windows worked fine this time. I then had to restart because of a program I installed and I got the black screen again. Upon ANOTHER reboot it worked again.
When I went back into OS X, my desktop files were wiped. I don't know if it something I did or just the bugs because its still in BETA. Either way, back up your files and follow the instructions to a "t". I'll post back more results as I continue to test it. Good luck!
-Kegan
I ended up having to slipstream SP2 into the XP disc and re-burning it to make it work. Having that said, it installed fine, ran fine and I installed a few programs like Photoshop and MacDrive without any problems.
The only other problems I did encounter were when I rebooted and used OS X for a while and tried to go back into Windows, it froze on a black screen causing me to shut off the laptop and restart it. Booting into Windows worked fine this time. I then had to restart because of a program I installed and I got the black screen again. Upon ANOTHER reboot it worked again.
When I went back into OS X, my desktop files were wiped. I don't know if it something I did or just the bugs because its still in BETA. Either way, back up your files and follow the instructions to a "t". I'll post back more results as I continue to test it. Good luck!
-Kegan
Thanks Hunter ! I''m looking forward to hearing how you get on. I really would like to invest in the new Pro Mac. The cross platform ability is really a selling point for me. I have invested in numerous Windows Progs and like the platform but saying that I am setting up a small production company and wll be looking for an editor; as Final Cut is probably the second biggest name in NLE editing I guess it makes sense to be able to run both.
KingVidiot
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Emulation is great (I love VSTi's) but it can get ridiculous. I would think that since Vegas and similar programs need as many clock cycles as they can get, you would want to run them on a native PC, not an emulation or some other kluge.
VMWare is very popular for servers, but servers don't usually run hardcore programs like video editors and audio processors. If you have a Mac, you should probably stick with Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro.
VMWare is very popular for servers, but servers don't usually run hardcore programs like video editors and audio processors. If you have a Mac, you should probably stick with Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro.
MalcolmOng
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I've always told myself that i'd never buy a mac because of the lack of gaming support, and the overall lack of support for windows programmes. However now with bootcamp, i'm running out of excuses not to get a mac - save of course for the price..I've recently sold my soul to get my dvx, and i doubt i'm gonna get any monetary aid anytime soon
KingVidiot
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MalcolmOng said:
Some would say you also sold your soul to the darkside of the PC, but I wouldn't say that.
As a former Mac-only user and a former Apple employee, other than some of their new success and innovation, I am not enamored with them anymore. I use both platforms where it is necessary, but the PC just has more options for sound, music, video, 3D, 2D art, science, etc...
Apple screwed-up a long time ago when they claimed that they weren't a gaming machine, so they delayed good 3d accelerated games for several years. The handheld market was theirs before Palm, and it could have stayed that way if they had just miniaturized the Newton instead of enlarging it. Now a PocketPC is basically a glorified Newton with a phone - yes the Newton was that much ahead of it's time. Macs have disappeared from most corporate places that I and other colleagues have worked since Apple, and their educational market is still weak. They have finally gained-back much of their former home user base, but many are still not willing to take the plunge mostly due to 2 things, program selection and system cost.
You could argue that a PC costs more in services if you don't know how to use one, but if you can't figure out a PC these days, then a Mac won't be that much easier for you. In fact the Mac's "under the hood" complexity shot-up with the whole UNIX kernel thing. These days you need to image your Mac with Carbon Copy Cloner for a complete system backup as you would use Ghost on a PC.
I still like my G4 and the tools on it. However, Apple needs to do more than claim that Microsoft is copying them (see new ad campaign) and they need to regain some lost ground now that iPods have helped to make them stronger. As a former insider, Apple management and marketing can be damn frustrating at times. Stop preaching to the choir and present ads with more substance and facts. "Easier to use" is boring and nebulous.
On the software front, they are making some nice tools: Keynote, Garage Band, and Pages are very well made. IDVD is cool, but the limited templates makes DVD's eventually look the same. Shake is phenomenal.
Personally, I would like to see a nice mix of Mac and Windows features in one OS. Each system certainly has its flaws.
I think that Bootcamp may be the solution for me when it gets full support in OS 10.5.
From a business point of view it just seems to make more sense to have the option of running both systems on the one machine. At least this way I dont have to re invest in yet another computer if Mac or Windows dont support a certain camera or product down the line. I would love to get at least four years out of my next desktop system without having to worry about expensive upgrades and compatability issues. I know there is always something new on the horizon but I hope the migration to HD as we now know it will give me at least five years of a breather before I need to start looking at the next revolutionary product.
From a business point of view it just seems to make more sense to have the option of running both systems on the one machine. At least this way I dont have to re invest in yet another computer if Mac or Windows dont support a certain camera or product down the line. I would love to get at least four years out of my next desktop system without having to worry about expensive upgrades and compatability issues. I know there is always something new on the horizon but I hope the migration to HD as we now know it will give me at least five years of a breather before I need to start looking at the next revolutionary product.
MalcolmOng
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Well, i'm in a gray area - i have a windows pc and an ibook 15". The former is my primary rig, but the ibook does have its uses
I use PC and Mac. Though my PC has primarily become a business machine and I still us it for photoshop, havent upgraded PS in awhile so its stuck there for the time being.