Rotating 35mm Adapter - Someone Show Me How To Build This??

prety nifty...Those videos were shot with a dvx?

wonder how exactly they did those upside down shots and if it was on a small budget.
 
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They were shot with an FX-1.

Nick invited me to the shoot of the vid with the upside down set. I couldn't make it unfortunitly, but Nick sent me pics of that set, and the whole thing was built from scratch upside down.

Ironic thing is, there is no need to flip the image from the adapter back in post with this kind of shot. Funny eh?
 
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Ill Eagle said:
I understand that a lot of it has to do with the Lens, what I'm saying is every adapter has it's own look and I like the look the adapter gives off. Look at the footage from all the different adapters, they don't all give off the same image and bokeh.........

I just happen to like this adapter and am trying to build it. I have a grain free and it's static, so I want to put that optical path in this adapter. I have found the motor thanks to bklyndv. I just don't have the bearing.........
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By the "look" as you call it. such as the quality of the bokeh and such, you are not going to replicate jsut by building the adapter with the same external parts. The ground glass Nick used in his adapter is not neccisarilly going to be the same type of ground glass you will use just because you both stick it into an industrial bearing. To base your choice of adapters on "the look" is only applyable if you can repliate the gg they used. Nick could have made the same ground glass in a spinning disk form and it would look exaclty the same as his bearing adapter (judging he used the same condesner and there is no z axis movment.)

It seems you might mean "look" as in how cool the adapter looks. Because all adapters should record the same 36x24mm frame size without vignetting if they are made correctly. the Feild of view WILL NOT CHANGE from one adapter from another. just as a peice of cardboard 5 inches x 5 inches does not change whether i take it to Japan, Romania, Canada, or Latin America. A 36mmx24mm frame does not change no matter what adapter it is in. THUS FOV is consisitent in all adapters.

What does change is the gg and diffusion. And by building from Nick's design, unless you find out exaclty what glass he used, you arent going to acheive the same "look" just because you spin it with a pulley inside a bearing. It is all dependent upon the ground glass and diffusion (of course the use of condensers to rid of vigneting is important too). movement of the glass is just to rid of grain. bokeh does not change.
 
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I believe Nick used a 40 micron (roughly 350 grit) GG from Knight Optical:

http://www.knightoptical.co.uk/acatalog/DiffusersGroundGlassDiffuserGround-B270Diameter.htm

I just tested one and the bokeh is superb. Specular highlights become solid discs when out of focus.

And he didn't use a condenser. He says he just used a quality Nikon lens (not sure how fast) and a macro to allow close focus. I think the macro combined with the larger lens size of a decent camcorder allows you to get away without a condenser and still have no hotspot, otherwise I don't really understand how you can get away without one... He said his frame size was 36mm wide or so.

You should also factor in Nick's editing, colour correction, composition, etc etc when you consider the look he's achieved. His stuff is very impressive.
 
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Forrest Schultz said:
By the "look" as you call it. such as the quality of the bokeh and such, you are not going to replicate jsut by building the adapter with the same external parts. The ground glass Nick used in his adapter is not neccisarilly going to be the same type of ground glass you will use just because you both stick it into an industrial bearing. To base your choice of adapters on "the look" is only applyable if you can repliate the gg they used. Nick could have made the same ground glass in a spinning disk form and it would look exaclty the same as his bearing adapter (judging he used the same condesner and there is no z axis movment.)

It seems you might mean "look" as in how cool the adapter looks. Because all adapters should record the same 36x24mm frame size without vignetting if they are made correctly. the Feild of view WILL NOT CHANGE from one adapter from another. just as a peice of cardboard 5 inches x 5 inches does not change whether i take it to Japan, Romania, Canada, or Latin America. A 36mmx24mm frame does not change no matter what adapter it is in. THUS FOV is consisitent in all adapters.

What does change is the gg and diffusion. And by building from Nick's design, unless you find out exaclty what glass he used, you arent going to acheive the same "look" just because you spin it with a pulley inside a bearing. It is all dependent upon the ground glass and diffusion (of course the use of condensers to rid of vigneting is important too). movement of the glass is just to rid of grain. bokeh does not change.
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I'm probably using the wrong terms because I can't explain it without a visual but I agree with what you said. I already stated that I already have my own optical path down that I've already been satisfied with the IMAGE I'm getting with my static adapter but now I want to use the same path but moving.

I want to use this design for moving...........I just need help because I'm not the best DIYer when it comes to moving parts..........
 
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And he didn't use a condenser. He says he just used a quality Nikon lens (not sure how fast) and a macro to allow close focus. I think the macro combined with the larger lens size of a decent camcorder allows you to get away without a condenser and still have no hotspot, otherwise I don't really understand how you can get away without one... He said his frame size was 36mm wide or so.
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Yes this is true for 'The Riddle' and the 3flex music vid, however a condenser was used in the latest rap vid.

Was chatting to Nick all day yesterday, and he has found an optical path that he is very pleased with.
 
Does any one know the size motor/make or of another motor to look at. I just bought a little aristo - craft 1.5 - 3.0 volts motor and doesn't seem that powerful at all. Any suggestions?
 
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