Audio for Run and Gun Doc in haiti

Hi Guys

I've been sifting through the archives, looking for a good audio solution for an upcoming doc I'm producing/shooting in Haiti.

I'm travelling with a single, trusted crew member (we've worked together almost ten years) but this is my first verite, in-the-field, no chance of running back to the studio or rental house for more stuff, kind of shoot. It'll be approximately two weeks.

Here are my requirements, and hoping you all can help fill me in. I'm also considering renting the gear, but as this is going to be my second feature-length doc (the first will be premiering at the MOMA in September) I might as well start getting the audio package rolling.

Anyway -

1. Absolutely must have broadcast/film theatre sound quality. My assistant is an experienced film audio guy, and has worked with me on nearly a hundred shoots, but we typically rent simple audio packages relevant to corporate video-type applications. The feature doc I just finished was done mostly on a nice set of wireless lavs whose name I can't remember, but besides a few battery fiascos, the sound was good.

2. The conditions of the shoot will be harsh, verite-style, quick setup- quick escape. I'm used to shooting as a one-man crew, but since we're going to be following orphans through potentially dangerous conditions (we are hiring a guide/interpretor, and for more dangerous situations, may be able to tag along with US Army convoys) but want to be able to track the sound as best we can. Interviews will be shot more verite-style, as well, as I'd like to avoid the talking head (check out my talking head reel at mutationengine.com/reels for what I want to avoid from myself!) style that I've grown accustomed to. So, we'll be trailing these kids and talking with them "in the mix."

So, I'm thinking of either a wireless lav or wireless boom or both setup. But something that will be able to withstand the walking, handling, moving.

3. Here's what I'm considering so far, in interests of keeping budget down and quality high.

- The Sound Devices 302, hooked to a wireless transmitter, with the receiver velcroed to my DVX 100a. With a question - will my sound man be able to monitor the levels independently, or will he need to monitor from the DVX? I didn't use a field mixer on my last doc, except for a few times (and old Shure 4 channel in, one mono out thing) and I always had trouble with it. Seemed like I had to keep the levels incredibly low on the mixer not to peak the DVX.

- the AKG modular mic system, with a shotgun and hypercardoid cap. Will this address my broadcast quality concerns, as well as practical/tactical concerns? Or do I need to bump up to Sennheiser MHK-416 or better? (In which case I will rent, but would love to, of course, own something of my own.)

- wireless transmitter, receiver. For my normal life, this isn't something that I particularly need, and mostly would prefer a hard wire. However, in this situation I'd prefer wireless. However, I'm not against buying a system if there is a reasonable ($500 buck) range combo. If not, I'd like to get an idea of the best rental. I know that this is subjective, but I'm assuming that RF interference will not be so dominant in Haiti, although I could be completely wrong. This is the segment I am the most unsure about.

- Boom Pole - $800!!! For a boom pole! Another rental, I fear. Specially when I return to talking head land. But before I do, going with the wireless setup, any suggestions for a cheaper purchase or a better rental appreciated.

- Additional gear. Hand-held mount for the shotgun, etc. I know there are a million, and if I could ask the Elders recommend based on the needs of this production. If it's been done too many times, I agree, as well. And I read the one about needing to have a message addressed to you in order to be validated, and I agree. We're all a little afraid sometimes!

Thanks, and sorry for the long post.

Justin
 
One huge potential problem with your described equipment package: if that wireless link between the mixer and camera flakes out on you, you may never get a second chance for the shot. I would strongly reccomend bringing along a small compact flash recorder as a backup. Even a non-timecode model will provide you with an extra layer of safety, although a timecode model would save you plenty of time in post. Additionally, your mixer can monitor the recorder's headphone feed, while you keep an ear on the camera's tracks.

As for mic selection, I would reccomend the Sennheiser MKH416 based in part on it's reliability in adverse conditions (high humidity, etc.) I would also strongly reccomend bringing along a cheap handheld dynamic mic (eg. the Shure SM58) for emergency use. Depending on the weather you're expecting, you may want to add a hogshair boom mic rain cover to your kit.

Additionally, bring backups for all your cables. Even though you're planning on using a wireless feed, you should still bring along a breakaway cable in case there are wireless problems.

I hope I haven't bored you too much stating the obvious (an ounce of prevention, blah, blah). It sound as though you have a challenging and exciting shoot ahead of you.
 
audio in Haiti

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SMuir said:
I hope I haven't bored you too much stating the obvious (an ounce of prevention, blah, blah). It sound as though you have a challenging and exciting shoot ahead of you.

Oh, not boring at all! I appreciate the advice immensely. Hadn't thought about contingency plans. I'm just sitting down to plot out the strategy, and am getting advice from everybody/forum I can. I have access to a bunch of lesser gear for free (ME66 and below) so can pack a few spares with me.

I was even thinking of taking a small DAT, but need to be cautious with the gear I bring. I'd like to keep everything in two cases. My pelican fits my camera stuff, and have a smaller (unused) pelican for audio I've yet to buy, but although I'll be in a relatively secure location, I'd like to keep everything within arms reach if possible.

Any suggestions on a small flash recorder? I also hope to record as much music as I can while there (for rights reasons, etc.)

Thanks again.

Justin
mutationengine
 
Justin you're totally freaking me out... I'm supposed to go to Haiti for the same situation on May 10-19... what gives? Are we working on the same job w/o knowing it? Who are you shooting for... or what is the subject?
 
One thing you must check on before you get any further in your planning -- is wireless allowed in Haiti, and if so, what frequencies and what power ratings. Then proceed with your planning.

If you are looking for absolutely the least worrisome setup to go wireless to your camera, you're going to need to go Zaxcom, or maybe Lectro 4xx series, with the lean towards Zaxcom. I believe that Zaxcom has announced, if not shipped a two way Tx/Rx that would let you monitor wirelessly from the mixer, but I'm not sure on this. Otherwise, I strongly recommend your camera person (you?) wear headphones at all times. (BTW, the budget for the Zax or Lectro setups far exceeds $500. You might be able to rent a set for that).

Phil
 
ptalsky said:
One thing you must check on before you get any further in your planning -- is wireless allowed in Haiti, and if so, what frequencies and what power ratings. Then proceed with your planning.

Ahhh... good point. Will check.


If you are looking for absolutely the least worrisome setup to go wireless to your camera, you're going to need to go Zaxcom, or maybe Lectro 4xx series, with the lean towards Zaxcom. I believe that Zaxcom has announced, if not shipped a two way Tx/Rx that would let you monitor wirelessly from the mixer, but I'm not sure on this. Otherwise, I strongly recommend your camera person (you?) wear headphones at all times. (BTW, the budget for the Zax or Lectro setups far exceeds $500. You might be able to rent a set for that).

Phil

Thanks again - I have a very limited budget for the project. I'm doing it pro-bono (my good deed for the year) minus expenses , and self-funding the rest. Actually doing two projects - a fund raiser for the camp, and then a, "what the hell, I'm in Haiti, might as well shoot a documentary while i'm there!" for the rest. So trying to find the easiest, quickest, safest, cheapest route.

Thanks again for your help!
 
MattinSTL said:
Justin you're totally freaking me out... I'm supposed to go to Haiti for the same situation on May 10-19... what gives? Are we working on the same job w/o knowing it? Who are you shooting for... or what is the subject?


I sent you a PM.

If it is the same gig, it'll be like going to a party and wearing the same dress as your worst enemy...

Or like when Fred Flintstone had two dates, or that Mormon show with Chloe Sevingy.

Or...

Something.

You know, embarrasing!!! :)
 
robotjustin said:
I was even thinking of taking a small DAT,
...
Any suggestions on a small flash recorder? I also hope to record as much music as I can while there (for rights reasons, etc.)

Traditionally, "small DAT" was synonymous with "lousey DAT." Even a little Marrantz PMD660 will outperform mid-range portable DAT recorders, and at a fraction of the cost. I've been very happy with my Fostex FR-2, and wouldn't want to go back to tape (except maybe to the Nagra IV STC on which I cut my teeth).

I would reccomend you check out the Fostex FR-2, as well as the Sound Devices 702t and 744t. All of these recorders feature full timecode read/generate options, and they cost a small fraction of what a TC-DAT used to. The FR-2 is probably the most economical, although it lacks some of the groovier features on the Sound Devices recorders (not to mention the ergonomics). Also, the FR-2's battery life is pretty limitted, so an NP-1 adapter is a good idea.
 
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