shock mount for both rode ntg2 & oktava mk012?

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ade4all

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hi
this is my 1st post on this wonderful site so please go easy on me if you've heard it all before -
is there a decent shock mount which will work for both these mics, which can be used on camera & on boom (with adaptor)?
i can only afford 1 mic at the moment, & feel the rode may be the best allrounder to start with. i film mainly run & gun documentary stuff, almost always on my own, art based workshops & events involving groups of young people, with a few informal interviews thrown in. these are normally noisy events & it is hard trying to pick out verbal interaction with lots of background noise. it is mainly indoors but not always. i know the oktava is better for indoor recording but feel the rode maybe better at picking out this verbal interaction. i am also a bit scared by the sensitivity of the oktava to have it as my 1st & only mic, but would be interested in getting 1 when i'm a bit more competent with sound.
 
Ktek KSSM. Contact Location Sound and order one, you can speak with Val (nice guy) should be $100 plus shipping. You will also want to get the shoe adapter, ask Val which one will work best for you.

-Jeremy
 
thanks yankee
have heard a lot about this mount but im in the uk & its very expensive here, doesnt seem location sound deliver to uk, know of a good u.s. store that will?
 
i don't have it yet but i JUST ordered a sabra som shockmount from the sound room.

i was there ordering a second oktava mk-012 and i decided to try out this new shock mount.

i am currently using the Audio-Technica 8415. i have two of them. i liked the first one so much i got a second so i wouldn't have to swap it around too much.

now that i'm using better mic's i thought i would try what looks like a better shockmount.

i'll post any feedback i have after i get the new shock mount and play with i t.

matthew
 
I use a Rode NT4 with my HVX. A local camera shop had a Rode SM3 shock mount that perfectly fits the light shoe. Looks good - works great. Wayyy better than craming the NT4 into the Panasonic mic mount and clamping it shut with elastic bands! Cost about $50US. It was a separately packaged Rode accessory - should not be hard to find. Check out their website. http://www.rode.com.au/
 
thankyou for your help
i'd be very interested in knowing how the sabra som universal works out, much cheaper alternative. this would need an adaptor i guess to be able to fit it onto the camera as well as boom - should it fix onto the camera shoe or the mic clip thats on the camera, which is best? i've seen a testrite shoe adaptor 5/8 to 3/8 that looks like it should work but again only found it in the u.s. not uk. would any adaptor of that size work on the sabra or is it only for mounts like the ktek?
with the rode sm3, this is specifically for shoe mount & i think i would also need to buy sm4 for boom, or again would an adaptor work? also would the sm3 work with the oktava which i am hoping to buy later, it's not been mentioned as an alternative in any of the posts i've read so far here?
sorry for so many questions, i'm learning my way around sound, this site has been amazing in gaining knowledge so quickly, & so many questions had already been answered for me by going through the search engine. i'm now able to make good choices for the mics (within my budget anyway), i guess it's just these important additions that i need to get right to do justice to the mics
thankyou all again for your patience
 
I use an at8415 with k-tek S-SUS bands for the very mics you listed and have been happy with the results. I definitely suggest the K-tek bands for use with the Oktava, though. I wouldn't feel comfortable using the stock rubber bands that come with the 8415 with the oktava. The K-Tek bands also give you a little more room to position the mic which is especially needed with the smaller Oktava.

They're not as soft as the soft suspenders you can get for the K-SSM, though, in case you expect to do a lot of sweeping, dymanic booming. I've never found the K-SUS bands (for the 8415) to be a problem, though.
 
thankyou for your reply, k-tek doesn't seem to be available here in the uk, but the more i'm reading it seems using at least their bands is the way to go. Does anyone know how i can get k-tek in the uk, or a uk based equivalent? otherwise i guess it is best to get them from the u.s. & then pay import tax. Is this likely to be more than 20%? Lastly i've read the only real wind protection unit that works is the rycote bbg, failing that the windtech solution for $50 (again doesn't seem to be available here in the uk)
Does anyone from the uk know of good equivalents here, & good suppliers? Or is most of the best equipment found in the u.s. ?
thankyou for your help
 
Another option for you to try if you can't get them directly in the UK is to go through Canada. (I don't know if this saves you money or not, but hey, they are still a part of the Commonwealth, right?) ;-)

Trew Audio has a branch in Canada that can sell you whatever you need (and Trew is great to work with).

Phil
 
fantastic, many thanks
have contacted manfred & he's already got back to me with a number in the uk - will ring in the morning
just checked & same import tax applies in canada but thanks for the thought, will have a look at trews
amazing to have people willing to help me, & so quickly - this site & all you folk are great
 
Hope this worked out for you ade. FWIW, I ordered the KSSM from B&H in the states. Expensive shipping to Oz, but I got it as part of a larger order. I'm very happy with it after a couple of tests (and for the price, I guess I should be! :))
 
I think i'm going to go for it & get the kssm shocknount having just got the rycote bbg for £45, saving £25. One last question on this, the advice seems to be to get the soft bands for the mount - specifically in regard to the oktava mic, but will they be sufficient for the rode ntg2, i've just received the rode & it feels quite heavy, will the soft bands hold it well enough on a boompole?
thanks for your time
 
Keep digging through the posts and you'll probably find this answered - maybe not with respect to the Rode but I know some use the soft bands with 4073a. I think the weight is similar between the NTG2 and the 4073a - check the specs. Seems like some mentioned there is a bit of sagging with shotguns in the softbands but most just adjust the mount up so that the mic doesn't hit the frame of the mount. I think you'll be fine, though. I was a little worried about this myself and that's why I went with the 8415 with k-tek bands (mostly because I'm cheap, though.)
 
thanks dustino
have checked all the posts i can & still not found anyone who uses k-tek soft bands with the rode mic
i'm still a bit worried about using the rode with the soft bands, specs say it weighs 160g, the 4073a weighs only 120g, & if that makes the soft bands sag i'm sure its a lot worse with the rode.
Does anyone have any experience using the rode ntg2 with k-tek soft bands?
If not then I feel like I should get the normal bands too, for use with the rode. Suddenly i'm looking at $140 plus import duties for a shockmount. Pushing my budget to the limit - For a cheaper option, will the sabra som ssm-1 universal mount be good enough to carry the oktava, or is the at8415 with k-tek s-sus bands as dustino has a better option? getting myself into a muddle here on which way to go, can anyone help?
Many thanks
 
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No need to sweat... the K-SSM with soft bands will support your Rode mic... at 22mm diameter you will be stretching the holes out a bit, but no big deal. I've used the K-SSM and soft bands with every mic I own... even a 416 at one time... the 416 is heavy (175g) and the mount did sag with that mic, especially with a softie on it, but it still worked and I just adjusted the angle to compensate for the sag. Also the mic WILL be more bouncy in that short mount... but if you're bouncing that much your audio was probably gonna' suck anyway.

The thing I like about the Sabra-Som, not even counting the low price, is that the supports can be moved so that you can hold a short mic or a long one. Overall I still like the K-SSM more for it's minimalist design (small in every dimension) but if you're already blowing your budget then there wouldn't be any harm in trying the Sabra-Som. I never considered getting one even while a friend of mine up north kept telling me what a great little mount it was... finally I broke and tried one. As I said, in appearance it's not up to the K-Tek's slick, compact, machined form... but it's still small and it works... and the main advantage is that it will hold ANY size mic. If you get one from Sound Room be sure to ask for the 5/8 to 3/8 adapter... if you got your Oktava from them, Paul may include the adapter in the $50 cost of the mount.

I don't see anything wrong with the AT mounts that others are using, but I'd be surprised if they can hold the Oktava... maybe with a straight XLR going in they use the XLR plug in the back support? That would probably work anyway, but somebody should say so if they're doing that to good effect.
 
thanks matt,
feel reassured to know, & confident now to buy - a lot of money to spend with the doubts i had.
by the way, i sent a p.m. to you the other day about getting that shockmount handle you make - problem being that cause i'm from the uk, paypal cant verify my bank card to my address. have bought other stuff from the u.s. via paypal with no problems, would still love to get one off you but i understand if the verification is a problem. if not can i get one off you after your little trip away? have a great time by the way
 
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