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CallaghanFilms said:
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First Order of Business...

-Do away with the Mickey Mouse "alphabet soup rankings" that are currently utilized, and move to a ranking system where the boxing writers are polled.

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-Institute a multi-level tournament structure of some sort (no other sport allows one to choose his next opponent)
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Good points. I think that another thing that should be done is to get rid of the numerous belts and sanctioning bodies that exist (IBF, WBO, WBC, NABF etc) and have one champ per weight division.

The problem is that those who don't follow boxing don't know who the champ is. Hell, those who follow the sport don't know!
At any time there can be up to 4 different "champions" and even as ridiculous as it sounds, if a champ unifies all of the belts in his division then he is bestowed the title of "super champion".

This nonsense has to stop for the sport to progress.
 
I would like to see some sort of standard implemented in Tennis with the racquet technology. People used to play with wooden ones and now we have carbon technology and everything else. Serves are getting faster and harder because of technology not because of the athletes.

I also think that it would be great if football overtime was changed to the college system of overtime.

With college sports, I wish that there could be a better system than the bowl system, that just pisses me off.

-Jeremy
 
And another problem with the designated hitter is that it has filtered down so far. Even high schools are using it. My problem with that is that you've got kids who don't get the chance to learn to hit better and other kids who often don't get the chance to work on their defense.
 
if i was in charge of football i'd get rid of the "ball crossing the plane" rule. I think that's the lamest thing ever!

It really ticks me off when a player will be getting pushed out of bounds near the endzone and he'll just flick the ball over the line before being pushed out...and it's a touchdown?

a touchdown should be just what it's called, a touch-down...you have to put the ball or some part of your body in the endzone for it to count.
 
TheYankee said:
That is a great idea! To piggyback on your idea, I would also institute a standard rate of pay or at least a pay scale for boxing to keep the promoters from taking advantage of the fighters and keep everything on the level...
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I'm much to ardent a capitalist to agree on that, but hows about this for a starting point...

THE GODDAMN LOSER'S PURSE IS REDUCED TO HALF THE SIZE OF THE WINNER'S (IDEALLY MUCH LESS THAN HALF)!

That should be common sense, no?
 
CallaghanFilms said:
I'm much to ardent a capitalist to agree on that, but hows about this for a starting point...

THE GODDAMN LOSER'S PURSE IS REDUCED TO HALF THE SIZE OF THE WINNER'S (IDEALLY MUCH LESS THAN HALF)!

That should be common sense, no?
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Yeah, I just can't get behind that. I think that there is something about boxing where it just doesn't work out. I think if there was a standardized pay scale, say a championship fight is worth $5,000,000 or something like that, then I'm OK with it. It just seems like the type of sport that would do well if it was more organized. We all know it is considered the most corrupt sport there is.

-Jeremy
 
CallaghanFilms said:
I'm much to ardent a capitalist to agree on that, but hows about this for a starting point...

THE GODDAMN LOSER'S PURSE IS REDUCED TO HALF THE SIZE OF THE WINNER'S (IDEALLY MUCH LESS THAN HALF)!

That should be common sense, no?
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I just think that there is far too much risk involved in boxing to do such a thing. Not only physical risks, but there are external factors as well (i.e. bad scoring by corrupt judges, poor/biased refs taking points away or stopping fights prematurely etc).

How about having a pay scale based on fair and just rankings where the higher your ranking the more you get paid. I have seen fights where the challenger gets the lions share of the purse and the champ gets peanuts.
 
jkc123 said:
...but there are external factors as well (i.e. bad scoring by corrupt judges...
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:evil:Oh, did I forget to mention the expulsion of judges?!:evil:

*I'm half kidding on this point...though it has been suggested by some that American fights should switch over to the ref-judged system ASAP*
 
If I was commish ...

First and foremost:

Baseball's Rule 21, prominently posted in every clubhouse lockerroom, mandates permanent banishment from the sport for having a gambling interest of any sort on a game in which a player or manager is directly involved...

I'd keep Rose banned from the Hall of Fame.

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I'd keep interleague play

How are fans from one area ever going to experience seeing the other teams already. I think it is good for the league.

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I'd instill A Drug Policy as follows:

1st Offense - 1/2 Season suspension. If past halfway point in games then rest of season

2nd Offense - Full Season Suspension

3rd Offesne - 3 Full Seasons (Which may or may not mean lifetime for some careers)

4rt Offense - Lifetime

Each Spring Training a full list iof banned substances would be made available and mandatory reading to all teams / players so as to avoid confusion.

Drug testing would be Random throughout the season, however mandatory at Spring Training start, Spring Training end, All-Star Beak, start of Post-Season Play and the end of the World Series.

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Salaries would be changed to a Military style of Salary and no FREE MARKET:

Rookies make between A and B
2nd Year Players make between B + and C
3rd Year Players makes between C + and D
etc
etc
etc

A player in his 8th year, for example, can be paid as little as a Rookie (League minimum) but no more than the Cap on 8th year players.

There would be no Signing Bonuses

Addtionally each team would be allowed END OF YEAR BONUS's for incentives (The same amount for each team and part of baseball's profit sharing revenue):

Leading league in certain or respective categories, hitting the most HR's, having the mosr RBI's ... etc etc etc

If these so-called Marquee players do not perform as expected then they don't get thier BONUSES

In fact, all sports would be this way if I had my say.

Additionally, there would be a Salary Cap for all teams with NO EXPCEPTIONS
(Ie. taking the fines to break the rules)

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And finally, I'd get rid of the designated hitter and the Pinch Runners (NUTS!).

and speaking of which (I just reminded myself of Crash Davis: NO ASTROTURF in a ballpark!!!!!!!)
 
CallaghanFilms said:
:evil:Oh, did I forget to mention the expulsion of judges?!:evil:

*I'm half kidding on this point...though it has been suggested by some that American fights should switch over to the ref-judged system ASAP*
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Exactly why I stopped watchign boxing about 10 years ago. Boxing is a farce.

As stated, corrupt judges, currupt managers, too many classes and divisions and orgnanizations ...

And admittedly, as I've gotten older ? I feel the need not to watch 2 guys beat the **** out of each other for the sake of violence.
 
John_Hudson said:
...be changed to a Military style of Salary and no FREE MARKET:

Rookies make between A and B
2nd Year Players make between B + and C
3rd Year Players makes between C + and D
etc
etc
etc

A player in his 8th year, for example, can be paid as little as a Rookie (League minimum) but no more than the Cap on 8th year players...
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Ouch!
You had me till there, John. I agree with you across the board on everything else...but the capping approach will fail each and every time IMO.
 
6 of the Highest paid players in baseball are Yankees. We all have heard it before but it's still bullshit.

1 Rodriguez, Alex $ 21,680,727 New York Yankees
2 Jeter, Derek $ 20,600,000 New York Yankees
3 Giambi, Jason $ 20,428,571 New York Yankees
4 Bagwell, Jeff $ 19,369,019 Houston Astros
5 Bonds, Barry $ 19,331,470 San Francisco Giants
6 Mussina, Mike $ 19,000,000 New York Yankees
7 Ramirez, Manny $ 18,279,238 Boston Red Sox
8 Helton, Todd $ 16,600,000 Colorado Rockies
9 Pettitte, Andy $ 16,428,416 Houston Astros
10 Ordonez, Magglio $ 16,200,000 Detroit Tigers
11 Johnson, Randy $ 15,661,427 New York Yankees
12 Park, Chan Ho $ 15,505,142 San Diego Padres
13 Martinez, Pedro $ 14,875,000 New York Mets
14 Hampton, Mike $ 14,503,543 Atlanta Braves
15 Berkman, Lance $ 14,500,000 Houston Astros
16 Thome, Jim $ 14,166,667 Chicago White Sox
17 Colon, Bartolo $ 14,000,000 Los Angeles Angels
18 Pujols, Albert $ 14,000,000 St. Louis Cardinals
19 Abreu, Bobby $ 13,600,000 Philadelphia Phillies
20 Beltran, Carlos $ 13,571,428 New York Mets
21 Delgado, Carlos $ 13,500,000 New York Mets
22 Guerrero, Vladimir $ 13,500,000 Los Angeles Angels
23 Jones, Andruw $ 13,500,000 Atlanta Braves
24 Damon, Johnny $ 13,000,000 New York Yankees
25 Matsui, Hideki $ 13,000,000 New York Yankees

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Yankee's total payroll:

$ 194,663,079

Marlin's total payroll:

$ 14,998,500


I say NUTS. Let these guys earn it in incentives and endorsements. Jeter for example is getting $6 Million in endorsements alone. $6 Million ?!

I satnd by it. Make these guys earn it. They're spoiled.
 
I still can't believe that one myself (and no one is worth that IMO)

That being said...

As in anything else,
something (or someone) is only worth what some schmuck is willing to pay for it (him).

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You updated your post...I am of course referring to the Rodriguez deal
 
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OK, I cannot let Hudson's post, as large and bold as he my type go unanswered.

1. Pete Rose - Personal opinion. I think that he should be allowed into the Hall of Fame (I'm going there for my first time this summer, so maybe my opinion will change after I see it with my own eyes), but keep him banned from baseball.

2. Salary - Being a Yankee fan I disagree with this. It's weird because in boxing I think that everyone should be on an equal scale, but baseball and baseball owners are making record profits, even with the massive salaries being paid. I think it's good for the workers to make money from the owners. Your plan is interesting through and essentially promotes building teams from within and eliminating free agency. Imagine how much different everything would be with this plan.

3. Interleague Play - I still stand behind the opinion that if you keep the leagues seperate there is that hated rivalry. I mean look at Jason Varitek and A-Rod eating breakfast together at the WBC. That part of the rivalry is dead. I think if you keep the leagues apart then it becomes a much more intense. I see the benefits but I like that building aspect.

4. Brilliant drug policy, but the current program is more intense than yours. 50 games, 100 games, lifetime. I think that really drives things home.

5. DH - I don't see this ever going away. It was brought in for two reasons: 1. To give old players a chance to still play 2. To add more offense to the game. I think that now, especially in the post juicing age, that the DH brings something to the game. Then again, my team hardly has a DH, and you would take my enemies greatest weapon (David Ortiz) out of play, so maybe I can agree to that. Then again, I like the DH as cheesy as that sounds.

6. Pinch Runners? C'mon, if you're a national league fan they change players like I change socks. It is a strategy aspect, you can get into the pitchers head, I like it. It is that whole utility aspect of the game.

7. Signing Bonus - I can deal with this.

8. Performance Bonus - Right now the only performance bonus allowed are plate appearences, games, time not on DL, MVP, All Star. There is no reward for hits, HRs, RBI, runs, stolen bases, sacrifices, or OBP%. I actually like the idea of rewarding based on performance, especially post season performance. This could be a way to make your salary structure really work and take off.

9. If you're going all Crash then why not get rid of the dome also? I don't think baseball should ever be played indoors, but I don't have a problem with astroturf. Actually, screw all that, get rid of domes and astroturf.

What really surpises me is that you didn't require the hitter to not drop the bat and just give everyone a bat, if you can make it around the bases without getting knocked out then you score a run. I don't know, maybe give the pitcher a shotgun or something.

-Jeremy


EDIT (So I don't have two posts on top of each other)

CallaghanFilms said:
As in anything else, something (or someone) is only worth what some schmuck is willing to pay for it (him).
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I still have my baseball cards from when I was a kid. I remember I would tell my father how much this card was worth, or that card. He would always ask me, "well how much can you get for it?"

When I wanted to buy my DVX I thought aboutselling all my baseball cards. I bought a Beckett Price Guide and came up with thousands of dollars worth of cards. Then I went to Ebay and cards that were worth $300 were being sold for $18. Complete sets that I bought in 1986 for $30 were being sold for $50 although Beckett had it at $300. Things are only worth what you can get for it.

-Jeremy
 
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TheYankee said:
OK, I cannot let Hudson's post, as large and bold as he my type go unanswered.

1. Pete Rose...keep him banned from baseball.
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:evil:...NOOOO not that! ANYTHING but that!!
...And he was planning a comeback for his 65th Birthday!:evil:
 
John_Hudson said:
6 of the Highest paid players in baseball are Yankees. We all have heard it before but it's still bullshi*.

1 Rodriguez, Alex $ 21,680,727 New York Yankees
2 Jeter, Derek $ 20,600,000 New York Yankees
3 Giambi, Jason $ 20,428,571 New York Yankees
4 Bagwell, Jeff $ 19,369,019 Houston Astros
5 Bonds, Barry $ 19,331,470 San Francisco Giants
6 Mussina, Mike $ 19,000,000 New York Yankees
7 Ramirez, Manny $ 18,279,238 Boston Red Sox
8 Helton, Todd $ 16,600,000 Colorado Rockies
9 Pettitte, Andy $ 16,428,416 Houston Astros
10 Ordonez, Magglio $ 16,200,000 Detroit Tigers
11 Johnson, Randy $ 15,661,427 New York Yankees
12 Park, Chan Ho $ 15,505,142 San Diego Padres
13 Martinez, Pedro $ 14,875,000 New York Mets
14 Hampton, Mike $ 14,503,543 Atlanta Braves
15 Berkman, Lance $ 14,500,000 Houston Astros
16 Thome, Jim $ 14,166,667 Chicago White Sox
17 Colon, Bartolo $ 14,000,000 Los Angeles Angels
18 Pujols, Albert $ 14,000,000 St. Louis Cardinals
19 Abreu, Bobby $ 13,600,000 Philadelphia Phillies
20 Beltran, Carlos $ 13,571,428 New York Mets
21 Delgado, Carlos $ 13,500,000 New York Mets
22 Guerrero, Vladimir $ 13,500,000 Los Angeles Angels
23 Jones, Andruw $ 13,500,000 Atlanta Braves
24 Damon, Johnny $ 13,000,000 New York Yankees
25 Matsui, Hideki $ 13,000,000 New York Yankees

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Yankee's total payroll:

$ 194,663,079

Marlin's total payroll:

$ 14,998,500


I say NUTS. Let these guys earn it in incentives and endorsements. Jeter for example is getting $6 Million in endorsements alone. $6 Million ?!

I satnd by it. Make these guys earn it. They're spoiled.
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Technically it's seven (not Slevin) you overlooked Mike Mussina.

-Jeremy

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Technically though, we did not give A-Rod that deal nor did we give Johnson that deal. Five of those seven you can blame on the Yankees management.
 
Baseball.

-Increase drug testing, like by a mile, daily even, if they let me.

-Lift the Rose ban.

-Still on the fence re: DH, so I'd throw out some waivering statements and on the fence retoric, just so I officially look like a commish.

-Increase inter-league play.

-Drop this rediculous investigation and witch hunt.

-Increase urban partnerships with the MLB. Like programs that support low cost game tickets for underpriveleged families, and MLB fundraisers for kids ballpaks in low-income areas. I'd go crazy with this initiative and even design some kind of mandatory public service for players that mandates a certain amount of hours dedicated to community fundraisers for these initiatives.

-I'd impliment cheerleaders for every team ;)
 
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