Discrepencies in 'Silence of the Lambs'

-zach-

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I just finished watching the film, and my first thought was 'creepy'. My second thought was that the film was brilliantly created, and is one of the few that has managed to catch my attention and have me completely forget about what type of shot they were using or what mistake they made. My third thought was to watch it again. In the beginning of the film, I found two minor discrepencies that I'd like to share:

Oopsie #1:

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When Jodie Foster is reviewing the newspapers regarding Hannibal Lector, she scrolls through pages quickly, allowing the audience only to read the headlines. I paused on one page, and realized that the mistake was a simple one. On either side of the newspaper, the same article is printed. It has nothing to do with Dr. Lector, but it is re-imagined twice on the same page. Copy + Pasted to fill space around the article of interest. Oopsie!

Oopsie #2:

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When Jodie Foster is examining the garage in which she found one of Dr. Lector's former clients, or rather, his head, the camera moves to a piano. The piano is covered in dust. There are also fingerprints on the piano, ones that shouldn't be there. Jodie Foster and the man who owned the garage had established that no one had gone in there for 26 years. Oils from fingers would have worn off the piano, therefore allowing the dust to settle evenly. For the fingerprints to be there, someone had to have been in there in the past 26 years.

P.S. LOL@the RITZ Crackers in the background.

P.P.S. I expect to be posting more critiques on subtle discrepencies, like the sudden scenery change in "Cry Wolf", or the status of the open/closed present in "About a Boy". I also will be posting some random tutorials, more like "How to do's- cool effects in movies." That would be fun.

See ya around.

z.
 
I like to try to pick up on things like this in movies. One that really bugs me is the first classroom lecture scene in Good Will Hunting. The position of the blackboards in the background moves twice. They start out lowered, then in the middle of his convseration one gets raised up, then in the next cut, its back down.
 
You should rewatch Silence and check out the use of straight on extreme close ups. Those ECU's are very unsettling and affect the audience on a psychological level. Great film. I just rewatched it last weekend.
 
Amazing movie. I saw it with Demme and he talked a little, amazing guy. The goof he pointed out was that there's no possible way Lechter got ahold of the pen.

Anyhow, I agree about the ECUs. He shoots shot/reverse-shot at ALMOST straight on which really highlights the amazing performances. Jodie Foster is just outgrageously good in this movie and the cinematography/shot choices really work to highlight her performance (and Hopkins').

Btw, you live in Boston and are going to NYU for film school? Send me a PM...I'm researching grad schools myself.
 
They both won an Oscar for their performances. Except in a couple of shots, you can make out some lighting fixtures in the reflections in their eyes. Zoom in and you can see. (You have to turn smoothing off) It's Alt+Apple/Option+ =, on a Mac.

Anyways, thanks for the responses.

z
 
Hmmm... neither are really discrepencies as that impies things that don't match up. The newspaper thing was just someone being lazy figuring we wouldn't pause the screen in the movies, and the piano... well, you really have to look at it to see fingerprints. It's not like giant hand prints are all over it. There's a couple of smudges that may or may not be finger prints. To me, it would be more of a discrepency if the piano was shiny and clean.

Regardless, Silence is one of the best thrillers period. Excellent camera work, direction, a great adaption by Ted Tally and two stand out performances.

Plus, "it puts the lotion in the basket". What more can you ask for?????

If you are in the NYC area and a fan of Silence of the Lambs, check out "Silence the Musical!" when it comes back to Off Bway. It is one of the funniest parodies I have ever seen. http://www.silencethemusical.com/nyc/ You can hear some of the songs. Pure genius. My wife and I laughed our butts off. We saw it over the summer at the Fringe Festival.
 
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Ought2bCommitted said:
and the piano... well, you really have to look at it to see fingerprints. It's not like giant hand prints are all over it. There's a couple of smudges that may or may not be finger prints. To me, it would be more of a discrepency if the piano was shiny and clean.

Yeah, sorry about that, I had to .jpeg the screens and then lower the quality. They WERE fullsize .tiffs but we all know about that lovely thing bandwidth. If you watch again, especially with the moving camera, they're really noticable.

Ought2bCommitted said:
Regardless, Silence is one of the best thrillers period. Excellent camera work, direction, a great adaption by Ted Tally and two stand out performances.

I was going to say something about how much time Ted Tally put into the adaptation because it's awesome. But, I decided it was off topic. And the camera work, definitely. It used original shots that were inventive, not just good ways of doing old shots.

Ought2bCommitted said:
Plus, "it puts the lotion in the basket".

Bwahahaha.

You can only truely laugh at statement after you have heard the Dane Cook parody of it. He's so funny when he says it. I'll find out what song it is.
 
Update:
The song is called "Operation - Monopoly" it's in like the first 30 seconds. And he really elaborates on it, yeah, it's funny.

Also:
Family Guy fans:
Seth Green, in the audio commentary of Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story, said that the inspiration for Chris' voice came from Ted Levine's performance as Buffalo Bill. He said that him and his friend had a lot of fun "Like, putting him in funny situations" So they would emulate Ted Levine's voice as a McDonald's drive-through receptionist. "Would you like fries with that?" So, when Seth Green originally came in to audition for Chris, he couldn't use his real voice and he didn't know what voice to audition in. He decided to use the Ted Levine voice and that is where Chris' voice came from.

end.

-z
 
I bet you guys have never worked on a real feature film gig if you are this nit-picky. “Silence” is art, with really strong continuity, Geez, get outside more often. There’s a million small details to get 10 min of a great feature like that. If you have to stop frame it to pick it apart, then go back to shooting your Wedding videos, cuz' features are HARD WORK!

Steve
 
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Actually, I just happened to see the microfiche scene on AMC a couple minutes ago.

Yeah. Niiiiit-picky. it isn't onscreen long enough to make any difference whatsoever.
 
I bet you guys have never worked on a real feature film gig if you are this nit-picky. “Silence” is art, with really strong continuity, Geez, get outside more often. There’s a million small details to get 10 min of a great feature like that. If you have to stop frame it to pick it apart, then go back to shooting your Wedding videos, cuz' features are HARD WORK!

Lighten up !

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Great post !

Like in The FOG remake when the girl literally changes into another actress before our very eyes; love spotting goofs.
 
John_Hudson said:
Lighten up !

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Great post !

Like in The FOG remake when the girl literally changes into another actress before our very eyes; love spotting goofs.
Yeah, when we do the commentary on our feature I think we'll point out the mistakes like they did in The Usual Suspects, just so people will know we know about them. Try as you might, you just can't get rid of them all. We spent a lot of time erasing boom shadows from three scenes, but it HAD TO BE DONE. :)
 
Thanks to Blaine and John for backing me on this.

Okay, I'm being nit-picky, but I do it with my films too. It's fun to see that big budget directors can make mistakes. Sooo many people look at the film before it hits theatres, so you think someone would see them. They don't. That's why I point them out.

z
 
I don't think the newspaper columns thing is a "mistake." It was probably done quite consciously as a time-saver, because it truly doesn't matter.
 
David Jimerson said:
I don't think the newspaper columns thing is a "mistake." It was probably done quite consciously as a time-saver, because it truly doesn't matter.
I agree with that. Movies aren't meant to be watched frame by frame (and phonograph albums were not meant to be played backwards :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) ). Sometimes, particularly in low budget, the errors are caught but it's too late to really do much about it as the cost-to-correction ratio just doesn't make sense. :)
 
-zach- said:
Thanks to Blaine and John for backing me on this.

Okay, I'm being nit-picky, but I do it with my films too. It's fun to see that big budget directors can make mistakes. Sooo many people look at the film before it hits theatres, so you think someone would see them. They don't. That's why I point them out.

z

I don't really think you found mistakes though. I could barely see fingerprints on the piano. Like I said, if it wasn't dusty after 10 years it would be a msitake.

The microfilm was just someone saving time, not a mistake. It would have been a mistake if it said "Lekter".
 
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