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Canopus impressions/questions

Canopus impressions/questions

Hi all,

Thanks for making the demo available.
The first thing I have to mention is that I got considerably better performance playing back my 720p24 footage in Canopus, compared with all the other playbacks I have tried so far (P2 viewer, Avid, Raylight). My Dell M60 (1.7ghz centrino) played back very close to real time: close enough for me to be happy with it.
The audio stuttered a little though, probably in time with the image playback stuttering: I found this disturbing and would like to know if there is a setting that can cause audio playback to be smooth and continous?

Applying a color balance effect to the clip, I noticed that there was no way to toggle the preview of the effect on and off. The button that seemed to claim that was its function had no effect at all and the effect was previewed at all times. Any suggestions?

I must be missing something, but Edius declares the resolution of my 720 footage as 960 * 720 (under video tab of clip properties)... I'm not sure why it isn't 1280 * 720...

I know this is purely a matter of personal taste, but I warmed to the Edius layout and flow ten times faster than I did to Avid. I find it to be far more intuitive, and was able to feel my way through everything I wanted to achieve with my first play.

Again, thank you for the trial, ye Canopus people.

M.
 
Barry_Green said:
Here's a step-by-step on how to set up Edius Broadcast for capturing streaming footage from the HVX.

Start Edius Broadcast. Choose "new project".

Choose any of the following presets:
Canopus HD 1080/60i
Canopus HD 1080/30p over 60i
Canopus HD 1080/24p over 60i
Canopus HD 1080/24pA over 60i
Canopus HD 720/60p
Canopus HD 720/23.976p over 59.94p
Canopus HD 720/29.97p over 59.94p

(obviously, choose the one that matches the footage you shot).

In your project you'll have two monitor windows; click on the drop-down box above the left monitor window and choose "Generic OHCI - Input." It'll bring up the "Input Settings" dialogue box. In there, choose "Canopus HD 1080/60i" for 1080 modes, or choose "Canopus HD 720/60p" for 720p mode.

Note, there's also a "Canopus HD 720/60p Constant Rate Shooting over 59.94p" preset; that may offer capturing only the chosen frames but I haven't tried that yet.

If you've got your HVX attached and in the proper mode, you should see a live image show up in that left window. Then just click the red capture button and you'll be capturing live streaming HD to your hard disk.
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Barry, your help is much appreciated.

I have no P2 card yet (it's on order) so the only way I can do HD is through streaming from the HVX to computer.... and I am using the demo. I am pretty sure those who have the real version will see a different menu. Here's my menu when I get to project settings:

canopus.jpg


No mention of Canopus HD. Proceeding with HDV setting will doom the HVX.

I tried regular DV with the HVX and it works ok.

Do you have to reconfigure the HVX for firewire streaming.... or is it automatic?

Thanks.
 
Streaming is automatic.

Did you download the Edius 3.61 demo, or the Edius Broadcast demo? What you're showing there doesn't match what I've got (as illustrated by the post above).

Broadcast is 3.61, plus more. Make sure you got the Broadcast demo, and not the regular Edius 3.61 demo.
 
Barry_Green said:
Streaming is automatic.

Did you download the Edius 3.61 demo, or the Edius Broadcast demo? What you're showing there doesn't match what I've got (as illustrated by the post above).

Broadcast is 3.61, plus more. Make sure you got the Broadcast demo, and not the regular Edius 3.61 demo.
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Gaaawwwd..... I'm so embarrassed. I got the wrong demo.

Proceeding to download again.....

SooorrrrYY!!
 
Wait a minute.

I'm in the Canopus Download area.... there's only one version of demo available for downloading... no mention of broadcast.... here's the tagline:


EDIUS NLE Software Demo: Free 30-day trial of the acclaimed nonlinear editing software. This trial version permits users to test every single feature within EDIUS Pro 3, as well as the features within the EDIUS Broadcast upgrade. (Due to licensing restrictions, TitleMotion Pro is not included with this trial).

Dang, I got embarrassed for nothing.

Malcolm Wright... seems like you got the demo to work (or at least got the right version....) gimme some HEEELLLPPP!
 
Okay, here's another neat thing about Edius Broadcast... you know all those .mov's that were posted in the native codec by Mac users? The ones that you cannot play on a PC because all you get is a white screen?

Edius Broadcast will play 'em.
 
Well folks....

I've been through the Canopus download site with a fine toothcomb... hoping I missed the Edius Broadcast demo somehow, but it's not there.

The only one available for download is Edius Pro 3, with a blurb that it has features of Broadcast in it.

If someone finds Broadcast, please lemme know.

An email (automated, probably) from Canopus came back about my HVX support queries... it just said, "Please upgrade to Broadcast."

I'm giving up on Canopus for the moment.

I'll check out how the HVX does on regular DV.... on my ancient Premiere.
 
stabwound:

I have downloaded the same version, and yes that's the only avalaible. They didn't give the full pakage for obvious reasons. And I don't know if you can capture live. And yes, there is a lot of testing that has to be done with Edius for all of as to go and spend 1000$.

Barry:
Can you tell us your PC specs please?
 
stabwound said:
Malcolm Wright... seems like you got the demo to work (or at least got the right version....) gimme some HEEELLLPPP!
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Hey!

I get the same presets as you do in the project dialogue.
Just go ahead and choose an hdv format. Then click on the edius logo and use the p2 select dialogue to pull in your p2 clips.

I think the project settings are merely the output settings: it seems a project can contain all sorts of different formats, but the setting you choose in the project dialogue is what it all gets conformed to for output... That's what I've understood. Might be wrong. If I'm right, then maybe only the full version allows you to output dvcprohd... either way, you can still pull in your clips with this version.

I haven't tried streaming...

Beware, me helping you is a severe case of the blind leading the blind...

:)

M.
 
Malcolm Wright said:
Hey!

I get the same presets as you do in the project dialogue.
Just go ahead and choose an hdv format. Then click on the edius logo and use the p2 select dialogue to pull in your p2 clips.

I think the project settings are merely the output settings: it seems a project can contain all sorts of different formats, but the setting you choose in the project dialogue is what it all gets conformed to for output... That's what I've understood. Might be wrong. If I'm right, then maybe only the full version allows you to output dvcprohd... either way, you can still pull in your clips with this version.

I haven't tried streaming...

Beware, me helping you is a severe case of the blind leading the blind...

:)

M.
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Well, thanks for responding, Malcolm.

This demo works if you have the p2 card to pull footage from.

For folks who want to use laptops for streaming, or myself, who's waiting for my P2 to ship, it's a bit of a bust.

I hope to do a lot of in studio greenscreen work, and streaming looks like a good method.

Anyways, Edius is on the top of my list. Avid and FCP+hardware is a bit out of reach budgetwise. A good working demo of Edius would have made my decision for me.
 
stabwound said:
Well, thanks for responding, Malcolm.

This demo works if you have the p2 card to pull footage from.

For folks who want to use laptops for streaming, or myself, who's waiting for my P2 to ship, it's a bit of a bust.

I hope to do a lot of in studio greenscreen work, and streaming looks like a good method.

Anyways, Edius is on the top of my list. Avid and FCP+hardware is a bit out of reach budgetwise. A good working demo of Edius would have made my decision for me.
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I hear you.
The demo was good to look at... I'm on the fence at this stage but its ok because I don't have to make a decision until the fall.

Until now I was leaning towards buying a Mac and FCP. Edius has given me something to think about, but there's no way I would buy their product at this stage, without hearing and seeing more about it - even though I like what I see so far. I guess that's the power of such a wide user base: FCP just inspires trust...

But this demo has put Edius on the map for me.

Cheers,
M
 
stabwound,

I have an HVX200 and Canopus Broadcast. Works flawless! I can't really tell you anything about the demo version? Did you have the P2 drivers installed before you installed Canopus? This was stated to do in the manual. Maybe this is the problem?

Good luck!
 
You don't need to have a P2 card to use the canopus p2 option, as i usually dump my P2s to hard drive and edit. just make sure that you use the P2 file settings so you have no problems with audio. Just go to P2 Select in the tools menu and add folder

Cheers
 
Can you tell us your PC specs please?
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Pentium M 760 2.00ghz laptop Dell Inspiron 9300 with 1GB ram.

Initially I had success with capturing, but now it keeps whining that my hard drive is too slow. I'll have to plug in the g-raid and see if that cleans things up.
 
G-raid...:( great ! What next ? In my case it refuses to go on ocasionaly without explanation. Plus my shuttleXpress seams to slow things down. Barry, being 100%honest: I don't care if G-raid, dual core CPU, even special harware happens to be a nesecity for a NLE to work with DVCPROHD or HDV. But it bothers me a lot that every company trys to convince me that its not. Recently a friend has bought Adobe PPRO2 wich has oficially been said that has HDV native suport ony to find out that this is not the case. And now I hear from you that from the second day you have Edius you are starting to use G-raid. I just hope thats the only problem you are going to face, but I doubt it.
 
Well, I didn't really expect to be able to capture 100 megabit HD to a laptop's internal drive, I mean, that's a bit extreme.

And a G-Raid is cheap; $500 for 500GB. But I haven't tried it yet, I don't know whether it works with it or not.
 
Norval said:
You don't need to have a P2 card to use the canopus p2 option, as i usually dump my P2s to hard drive and edit. just make sure that you use the P2 file settings so you have no problems with audio. Just go to P2 Select in the tools menu and add folder

Cheers
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Thanks for the helping hand, Norval. I don't have the P2 as it is still on order from my dealer (out of stock) so I can't even capture to P2 to dump on harddrive.

My only hope at the moment is stream capture, and it doesn't seem to work. :crybaby:
 
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