Sony V1 & FX7 - UPDATE: 24P in NTSC Model!

mikkowilson

mikkowilson

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UPDATE 9/19: The NTSC (USA) Model has been annouced, it includes 24p and 30p. Details directly from Sony here: http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/minisites/HDV1080/HVR-V1U/index.html


Ok, I had a good chat with the folks over at Sony this morning.

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The Sony V1 with the DR60 onboard

As I reported by text message, the sensors between the cameras are identical.

Here's the specs on the EUROPEAN models.:
3 x 1/4" CMOS sensors, 1080 x 960 each.
They have a new iterpolation method to improve quality.
The cameras are 1 stop slower than the Z1
Both cameras shoot at 50i. (ONLY) the V1 also shoots at 25p.

There is NO word from Sony Europe about the US model. They simply could not say. So speculation may continue as to the progressive framerates of the NTSC V1.

The cameras seem prety user friendly, and the footage that was shown is nice and clean.

They are approximaly similar in size & weight to the PD170, except that the weight is furthur back.


I also checked out the DR60 hard drive recorder.
Holds 60GB an can talk (with full onscreen menus!) with the V1 and FX7 (but not older models) over firewire and can do syncro tape & drive recording. Or it cna run independantly. I don't know if it works on non-sony cameras.

Some of it's sellign points over other units are that it had built in shock protection - if you drop it, it will sense the fall and dock the heads and brace for impact.
It also is very ncie and small, and low power consumption - it'll run 9 hours (!) on a standard Sony battery! It is powered by Sony L series camera batteries or an external power supply, but it can't be powered by the camera. Unfortunatly is does not function as a battery charger.

- Mikko
 
Thanks for all the info Mikko. We needed that. :)

Allright, so my interest level on this camera has fallen, considerably. The resolution, and well as latitude is lower than the z1/FX1. The FX1 is cheaper as well. About the only reason one would want this might be the 25p, but even that isnt such a big deal since the higher resolution of the FX1E would provide a nicer interpolated 25p conversion.

About the only two redeeming features at the moment seem to be the shock resistance (pretty cool!), and the lower weight.

The dark horse would be the CMOS chips. Lets see how they perform, regardles of the smaller sensor size, as well as lower resolution. Dont really expect muchm but lets see anyways.
 
Aah, one thing I fergot to mention..

The FX1 is beeing phased out (again, at least in Europe), availabilety will vary from country to country. Want an FX1? better be quick!

The Z1 however is slated to remain in the line for now.


The chips in the V1 and FX7 are the SAME resolution as the FX1 & Z1


- Mikko
 
FX1 has the same resolution as the V1? That cant be right. The V1 is only 1080 x 960, while FX1 is 1080i.
 
The chips are the same resolution, only smaller a and CMOS in the new cams. The way the signal is proccessed is different.

- Mikko
 
did they mention a price? I guess they won't say anything about US prices. Can you get some footage to post?
 
I was told no news, no price yet, no idea if or when. No idea about frame rates etc. But I was told V1a.
 
There's a photo in the Day 3 gallery of one of the rep's cheat sheet which lists approximate European Prices.

There is NO information on American models.

- Mikko
 
mikkowilson said:
There's a photo in the Day 3 gallery of one of the rep's cheat sheet which lists approximate European Prices.

There is NO information on American models.

- Mikko
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There saving it for another day. The Sony person told me the European prices mean nothing to the USA price.
 
Thanks for that report ... have you been able to determine how effective and/or clean the gain is on these new cameras? The gain on the Z1 is nice and clean but the gain on the HC1 is pretty noisy, and since the latter is a CMOS camera, I'm expecting that the gain on the V1 / FX7 may also be noisy ... which would be unfortunate since a clean gain is the only hope this camera has for event videographers ...
 
A few more informations for the V1 direct from IBC*

The resolution is 800 lines compared to 650 of the Z1.

zoom: 37.4-748 (35mm equivalent).

1080lines in 25p mode compared to 540 lines in CF24 of Z1.

211K LCD compared to 250K LCD of the Z1.

Additions over the Z1 are: camera profile, TC link, smooth slow recording, still picture.

8h recording time with NP-F970

List price Euro 4600.

*according to Sony.


From what I understood, the FX1 will stop selling but the Z1 will continue to be an alternative.

My prediction: Z2 by IBC 2007, maybe by NAB 2007.
 
mikkowilson said:
Ok, I had a good chat with the folks over at Sony this morning.

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The Sony V1 with the DR60 onboard

Looks the goods.
So u are saying its small.... do we have a picture of someone holding the thing so i can compare to y Fx1.
The reason is that size will be the deciding factor when gettin my next camera... sounds silly but snowboarding needs a small camera so i can ride as wel as film.
HEAPS bigger then the HDR-A1P? and is the FX7 gonna be cheaper then the V1
Mitch
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