New Sony Cinealta camera NGC 23

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Cost 200K
 
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MojoTrancer said:
The dinosaur plods around, while little mammals wait for the asteroid to hit... :evil:

Oh, now that's interesting. Yes, I think RED should adopt a small mammal as its none-too-subtle mascot.
 
What is it exactly? 1080P? 2K? 4K? 4:4:4? I realize the RED has killed this camera's thunder, but what features does it have to warrant the price?
 
Jack, i´ll tell you the features... It´s heavy, full of holes for cables like engineers love and expensive to keep newbies with empty pockets away from the game... And of course you always have this thing... it´s a S.O.N.Y!
 
I think you can almost make out the HD SR logo on the tape device. It is more or less a 950 with the SR tape transport. AFAIK it is 4:4:4 2K 1080P, so yeah, RED is well beyond.
 
I am not sure why Sony are bothering with this camera in light of Red to be honest. By comparison it really does look like an ancient 1960's television tube camera in comparison. I'd make a fair bet there were some false smiles going on when the Red demo was viewed.

It will be very interesting to see how this game plays out.
 
What is that thing. Is that a camera? What happened? That looks like a camera that is lying in a box in the back of the studio and hasn't been used in years.
 
Well the HDCAM-SR workflow is currently viable and the camera exists. Also, dont forget that Sony is also a STUDIO... this camera may have a short lifespan but at $200K, that may not matter. Could be a good camera for broadcast work as well. Still odd though...


ash =o)
 
There has to be more to it at the technical end than that. Im not dissing red at all here but I am asking for $200k if RED is beyond then where is the extra money being spent in this?
 
The costs are related to the obscene R&D Sony put into the technology over the years, but sat on it for too long saying producers and filmmakers are happy with the F900 so why bother to get better? The company has also kept way too many fat cats in redundant positions for a very long time...quoting such a price for people who can afford and want it now -I guess it's their money.

I personally see F900's having no choice but to go WAAY down once RED starts shipping.
 
This is a bit too pricey -- Unless there's something SONY is not releasing that we should know about.

Ok, Red starts at 17.5K for the body alone. The drive and other mentioned and unmentioned things will make RED hit close to 35k to 45K without the lense -- not talking about third party hardware, just internal RED components. Unlike the HVX-200 which costs 5.5K but racked up to over 10K at times with THIRD party hardware add ons, taking that p2 cards make up 2k.

Are all Red add-ons proprietary (?) like the drive that has to accommodate 4k footage and not needing a van to carry it around? Curious to know the outcome in the details from RED. IF it is what it states it is as a complete package, than I'm sold.

Also, it will be very interesting to see how they will dethrone Viper, CineAlta, Varicam in one swoosh. This we will not know until all physical pieces of RED are released to the public. If it is what they advertised in price, quality and modulinity, again as a complete package, we will see some great indirect responses by the big dogs. Panasonic is a very savy company, we'll see who will be at the top when RED debuts.

I love options. Competition stimulates innovation with the consumer coming out the winner.
 
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