C100: C100 / EOS R Video Lenses?

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Lindmando

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Hello, everyone!

I mostly do wedding videography, with some side photography. But I predominantly shoot video.


So, I have two Canon 24-105mm lenses that I love. They shoot great for video and photo. But I am looking to expand and get other lenses for video. I also have a Sigma 24mm ART lense that shoots great video, and also a Sigma 70-200mm lense.

I am thinking I need a wider Canon lense for video and maybe a couple prime lenses?

Some direction on this would be great. I have a couple of lenses in mind, but want to make sure I get the right ones. Yes, I know this all depends on the subject you are shooting.

Thanks, all!
 
scorsesefan said:
Canon 17-55 2.8 is a popular lens. I own it and use it often.
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Me too, but just be aware that if you get this lens and ever update to the C200 or a future Cinema RAW Light Canon camera, it doesn't cover the frame when shooting DCI and even in UHD, it vignettes pretty badly. When you use the EF-S setting when shooting UHD, it's passable but for RAW, no good.
 
jbregar said:
It's also super-duper noisy when AFing and the MF ring is atrocious. (the 17-55mm)
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Yep, my copy too. The MF ring feels like it has sand in it. The AF is slow and very noisy. Too bad, if they came out with a new updated L version of this lens with STM and Gen II or III IS, even if it was focus by wire, would be a big, big seller. But Canon doesn't give a crap about what users want. Nice to go to the Fuji Summit and tell the design engineers which lenses we want first! And they listen and do it. Amazing.
 
puredrifting said:
Yep, my copy too. The MF ring feels like it has sand in it. The AF is slow and very noisy. Too bad, if they came out with a new updated L version of this lens with STM and Gen II or III IS, even if it was focus by wire, would be a big, big seller. But Canon doesn't give a crap about what users want. Nice to go to the Fuji Summit and tell the design engineers which lenses we want first! And they listen and do it. Amazing.
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Are there Fuji lenses that auto focus on the C200?
 
My copy of the 17-55 focuses fine in manual, without any gritty feeling. It could be one of the early manufacturing runs, never bothered to look it up. Autofocus does usually hunt a bit, overshooting the mark, then undershooting, before coming back to sharp focus. If you and your customers are sensitive to that, the STM AF (stepper motor) is usually much better. On the other hand, for direct to consumer shooting like weddings, the needs aren’t as stringent, and a little focus hunting seems typical. If you *can* find focus, because a low-light warm-toned church service is very challenging for AF.

Wider than that, and, I do like having ultra-wide-angle in the bag, I quite like the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8, it’s one of my go-to lenses. More recently, I also picked up Canon’s relatively new 10-18mm STM, which is much slower with a variable max aperture. I think of it as an exteriors-only lens, but it has a very good look and great AF performance when there’s lots of light. It’s not for shallow DoF looks... but even the Tokina f2.8 doesn’t do that much for shallow DoF, as, generally, the wider the lens the deeper the focus.

Not many lenses I own would satisfy pixel-peepers, and the Tokina can show some chromatic aberration. This is almost never a problem in the b-roll I shoot with it.

I’ve shot a bit with Canon’s 16-35mm f2.8; very nice! Canon’s 14mm prime is not well known, it’s stunning. Where I live the canon stills lenses are readily available on the rental market, as are Zeiss primes. I don’t feel I need to own every piece of glass.
 
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Stills2HDConvert said:
Are there Fuji lenses that auto focus on the C200?
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No, I bought the X-T3 and am loving it. Still love my C200 but smaller, cheaper, lighter and more fun to shoot with the X-T3 these days. I am doing a shoot today, C200 will be on tripod in a pre-lit interview shooting RAW but the X-T3 will be on gimbal shooting b-roll to F-Log at 400Mbps 10-bit. It's a great camera, every Canon owners should have one! ;-)
 
puredrifting said:
No, I bought the X-T3 and am loving it. Still love my C200 but smaller, cheaper, lighter and more fun to shoot with the X-T3 these days. I am doing a shoot today, C200 will be on tripod in a pre-lit interview shooting RAW but the X-T3 will be on gimbal shooting b-roll to F-Log at 400Mbps 10-bit. It's a great camera, every Canon owners should have one! ;-)
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I was looking at the X-T3. How is it? Dynamic range? Rolling shutter? Have you adapted your Canon glass to it?
 
puredrifting said:
No, I bought the X-T3 and am loving it. Still love my C200 but smaller, cheaper, lighter and more fun to shoot with the X-T3 these days. I am doing a shoot today, C200 will be on tripod in a pre-lit interview shooting RAW but the X-T3 will be on gimbal shooting b-roll to F-Log at 400Mbps 10-bit. It's a great camera, every Canon owners should have one! ;-)
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Na.
I think you're a bit of a gear head.
And you have some new gear.
Enjoy!
 
I'd also be interested to hear how the XT-3 works with Canon glass since I heard that it has decent face recognition autofocus. Would be great to use as a b-cam that I can carry in a small bag and just lock off. On the other hand, it seems like decent X-mount lenses are pretty affordable.
 
Lindmando said:
Hello, everyone!

I mostly do wedding videography, with some side photography. But I predominantly shoot video.


So, I have two Canon 24-105mm lenses that I love. They shoot great for video and photo. But I am looking to expand and get other lenses for video. I also have a Sigma 24mm ART lense that shoots great video, and also a Sigma 70-200mm lense.

I am thinking I need a wider Canon lense for video and maybe a couple prime lenses?

Some direction on this would be great. I have a couple of lenses in mind, but want to make sure I get the right ones. Yes, I know this all depends on the subject you are shooting.

Thanks, all!
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I think the 18-35 f/1.8 is a requirement for weddings. It is the only zoom that will give you useable results once the lights go down at the wedding. The 50-100 f/1.8 is also nice, but you will wish it had IS and didn't breathe as much. if you already have Sigma, just stick with Sigma. Use the EOS-R in crop mode.
 
Stills2HDConvert said:
Na.
I think you're a bit of a gear head.
And you have some new gear.
Enjoy!
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I write reviews and articles for HD Video Pro and a few other outlets so playing with new gear comes with the territory. But unlike loaner gear, I bought the X-T3 full price with my own money. Ever since I bought my first gimbal, I had the 80D as my back up/B/gimbal camera and when I stepped up to my C200 and shooting 4K, I knew I would eventually need a capable 4K small camera for gimbal and B camera. I almost bought the GH5 or GH5s but used a friends X-T2 and was intrigued. When the X-T3 came out, that was it.

The Fringer adapter works well, although my first copy was spotty on if it would always work so I exchanged it. The new one came but I have been too busy shooting to really test it methodically, which I plan on doing this week. The Fringer does allow for full functionality with Canon lenses on the Fuji cameras so yes, face and eye tracking, etc. Most of the Canon lenses dwarf the Fuji body but seem to work fine.
 
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I was looking at the xt-3 and the bmpcc 4k as a 2nd cam to my c100. Pre-ordered the pocket. How does the X-T3 match color-wise to your c200?
 
scorsesefan said:
I was looking at the xt-3 and the bmpcc 4k as a 2nd cam to my c100. Pre-ordered the pocket. How does the X-T3 match color-wise to your c200?
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I've planned on doing some methodical tests shooting charts and some nice skin tones with both on my to do list but have been too busy with work projects to spend the time needed. Will post my findings when I can find the spare time.

Going to shoot F-Log on the Fuji and Cinema RAW on the C200
 
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I looked at the BMPCC today and came away with the thought that it is really a great value for the money. I have not compared it to the XT3 though to be fair the BMPCC is really a video camera and that would weigh more in my consideration as a B camera than say the XT3, even though I do love Fuji stills cameras.
The difference in sensor sizes between the C series Canon cams and the BMPCC might be a bit of an issue matching wise since the BMPCC is micro 4/3 and and Canon is super 35. My intuition is that since the BMPCC offers a few flavors of pro res, one could probably swing the color matching without jumping through too many hoops.
 
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