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    #16
    @Jacob You're in Portland?! If you're open to it, I would love to meet up and see your camera sometime. I have never seen one in person and I've always been curious!
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      #17
      Originally posted by Mike Krumlauf View Post
      Thanks for helping Jacob out guys. he bought my genesis. Could not have gone to a more deserving person!

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        #18
        Originally posted by QuickHitRecord View Post
        @Jacob You're in Portland?! If you're open to it, I would love to meet up and see your camera sometime. I have never seen one in person and I've always been curious!

        Ok, yeah! Let's meet up and shoot some footage with it next month! Work is coming back but if we meet on a weekday i'll be able to take out the rental necessary to shoot some footage.
        Every time i shoot with it I need to rent these:
        -x3 gold mount (anton bauer) 14.8V batteries
        -SSD for Atomos samurai recorder
        -SSD to USB 3.0 reader
        -Sony RM-B150 (from Pixthis)
        The total of the rental is just about $100 USD. I can't wait until my career comes back in full swing so I can finally afford all of these missing parts! However due to the pandemic I had to sell my camera assistant gear so I will need to buy that stuff back before I get into these "emotional puchases" again. If you're willing to split the cost that would be rad. I would let you shoot whatever you want on it (within reason).

        I have found a modder to get a second lens going for the camera, and potentially fix the IF box as well as create lens shims using the body cap that Achduk3 has kindly provided for me to borrow. Dane from Casperson productions is facilitating the upgrades to the Genesis, and his special cutting tools & 3d printer may even get the Genesis rod bracket (GRB) & panavision original dovetail in use. Since my last post i've also acquired a Monitor bracket and Astro DM-3005, both of which were panavision originals.

        P.S. there are apparently other Panavision Genesis owners out there, but my research has only taken me to SNS & youtube channels that have been inactive for years. If you know anyone with a Genesis body please have them reach out to me on here or facebook...

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          #19
          Originally posted by macgregor View Post
          Do you have any footage of shot with it Id love to see it
          it's a little f*cked up because i tried to color and grade it myself using da vinci resolve free version. I have basic knowledge of resolve and come from avid & fcp so i am still adjusting and i've come to terms with that so i've made this cosplay showcase public after being unlisted for months.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csbktIVDVYI&t=13s

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            #20
            It’s kind of a bummer that this damage happened, i have always found the best way to approach repairs is to source the parts and then pay technician if it’s work you are unfamiliar with. Especially with a one off like genesis. My confidence to experiment on F35 came from having lots of parts.

            A big concern is your damage extends into power supply or REI which seems likely considering these parts have fuses to blow.

            On Ebay there is Genesis minus ccd unit. If I were you I would be slowly chipping away at seller trying to get. these parts are gold to someone with a working Genesis. I would look at getting spare parts as the highest probability of success and will help years down the road.


            I am not very confident replacing the scroll wheel parts are going to help. However looking at the Ebay genisis I can see the circuit boards match the Sony ones. So my approach wouldn’t be to repair bad panel I would plug Sony side panel in at the motherboard level. I am confident Sony Side panel could interface with Genisis just like the Sony Remote. Sony and panavision used different parts for their panels but the interface at motherboard is same plug. If Sony worked then it would be a matter of getting Sony parts into panavision panel.

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              #21
              Originally posted by yachacha View Post
              It’s kind of a bummer that this damage happened, i have always found the best way to approach repairs is to source the parts and then pay technician if it’s work you are unfamiliar with. Especially with a one off like genesis. My confidence to experiment on F35 came from having lots of parts.

              A big concern is your damage extends into power supply or REI which seems likely considering these parts have fuses to blow.

              On Ebay there is Genesis minus ccd unit. If I were you I would be slowly chipping away at seller trying to get. these parts are gold to someone with a working Genesis. I would look at getting spare parts as the highest probability of success and will help years down the road.


              I am not very confident replacing the scroll wheel parts are going to help. However looking at the Ebay genisis I can see the circuit boards match the Sony ones. So my approach wouldn’t be to repair bad panel I would plug Sony side panel in at the motherboard level. I am confident Sony Side panel could interface with Genisis just like the Sony Remote. Sony and panavision used different parts for their panels but the interface at motherboard is same plug. If Sony worked then it would be a matter of getting Sony parts into panavision panel.
              Fantastic advice really. Thanks everyone for the help.

              I recently found a bit of info relating to the topic via the internet wayback machine. I found a 2007 archived page on the genesis that describes it's remote functionality as such:

              "Fiber optic camera adapter for off-camera control and recording
              Integrated lens control for focus, zoom and iris
              Camera control via Panavision RDC or Sony MSU, RMB series controllers"

              Thanks to the help of Mr. Borek (who was a Genesis tech back in the day) I was able to confirm they do in fact use the RMB-150 in shop, but alas in today's market they are all sitting around the same $700-$1200 range for a RMB+cable, it looks like i'll be renting the controller for now. Fingers crossed my new job will allow me the chance to make enough money for a piece of land and a house so I can pursue these fun side projects more.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Mike Krumlauf View Post
                Thanks for helping Jacob out guys. he bought my genesis. Could not have gone to a more deserving person!
                Yeah right, could have gone to me.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by keisersoze View Post

                  Yeah right, could have gone to me.
                  I'm almost positive Jacob was the one it needed to go to. Any kid in the generation below me who has a love and appreciation for the first generation digital cinema cameras has my full support. Most kids his age are focused on current tech. He's proven to me to that hes learning a lot about the craft and himself with that camera and that's all I could have asked for.
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