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But I can't watch it because of the shaky-cam thing.
Can people really watch this kind of stuff? Because I can't. I mean I just can't. It hurts my eyes and it gives me a headache.
I think maybe we should take a poll because I'll FREELY ADMIT that maybe it's just ME.
But in a shot where the camera is not moving - why would it be shaky?
This is just my own worthless opinion, but why would a camera ever be shaky if it's not implying movement by the character or by the viewer?
Other than though this looked very good. I really liked the grade and the fundamentals of the visuals. The audio is quite good too.
I just skipped through the whole thing hoping to land on stable shots but really didn't see any so I couldn't keep watching.
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But I can't watch it because of the shaky-cam thing.
Can people really watch this kind of stuff? Because I can't. I mean I just can't. It hurts my eyes and it gives me a headache.
I think maybe we should take a poll because I'll FREELY ADMIT that maybe it's just ME.
But in a shot where the camera is not moving - why would it be shaky?
This is just my own worthless opinion, but why would a camera ever be shaky if it's not implying movement by the character or by the viewer?
Other than though this looked very good. I really liked the grade and the fundamentals of the visuals. The audio is quite good too.
I just skipped through the whole thing hoping to land on stable shots but really didn't see any so I couldn't keep watching.
Thanks for the feedback! Honestly I'm sure most people will have a problem with the shakiness, but we absolutely love handheld work & wanted to incorporate it into this for a "documentary" feel throughout. I do admit that an EasyRig would have been a huge help in most of the shots, but our budget was extremely limited since we self-funded everything & had major time constraints. The anamorphic ratio & lens weight didn't help the shakiness either. The handheld cinematography in "The Hurt Locker" was a big inspiration to us as far as camera work, even that was drastically more shaky in nearly every single shot. People still seemed to love the cinematography & filmmaking, so there must be a sizeable portion of the community who can appreciate this style somewhere. Either way, you're certainly entitled to your opinion & your honesty is much appreciated. Cheers!
There is shaky handheld camera movement in every single Hollywood film (at some point) I have watched in my entire life...I thought it especially fit here as I felt a sense of urgency with the dialogue/VO.
There is shaky handheld camera movement in every single Hollywood film (at some point) I have watched in my entire life...I thought it especially fit here as I felt a sense of urgency with the dialogue/VO.
Yes. When following along with a character or when the camera is being the eye of someone going along with the action - when the beholder eye is supposed to be part of the action. Absolutely appropriate.
This has been done for decades. But also for decades within the same films any shot that doesn't fit the above criteria has generally been stabilized - this includes pans, cranes, dollies, and steadycam too - thus making up the vast majority of all the shots in a film. Generally speaking.
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I won't comment on shaky camera or not, I think sometimes that is just to add some character or style to the image.
But on color/grading, for me it looks too dark, like the gamma is too low. i.e. The mid-tones are pulled down into the dark-tones and dark-tones pulled to black.
There's a good shake and there's a bad shake. In this piece it varies from shot to shot, but I have to agree: some shots are just awfully shaky. And I think it's not only that, camera movement on some of them is just to rapid. I've watched the whole piece and from the second half it is a lot smoother: and all together can actually work.
I think I've asked but will do again. Raw from F5 and F55 is exactly the same? 16bit?
I also found the sheer level of shakiness very hard to get through, only the pretty face kept me going to the end really. But the colours were gorgeous, can you tell us a bit about how you approached the grade, and what LUTs (if any) you used?
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