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Last edited by Doug Jensen; 10-08-2021, 01:14 PM.
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That's odd. The a7siii can do 10-bit 4:2:2 in 4k long-gop h264 and also h265.
Newsshooter lists long-gop 4:2:2 10-bit for fx6, but is that only for HD?
https://www.newsshooter.com/2021/03/11/sony-fx6-review/
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I don't know anything about the A7 series cameras, but 4K Long-GOP on the Sony cinema cameras is always 8-bit 4:2:0.
As you say, only HD Long-GOP is 10-bit 4:2:2.
My Sony PXW-Z750 2/3" camera can do 4K Long-GOP 10-bit 4:2:2 @ 200 Mbps, but that is the only camera in world right now that has that codec.
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What about the FX3? That's in the Cinema linewww.VideoAbe.com
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It might be because the a7siii got new codecs that are not EXACTLY the same as the prior xavc-L? I don't know if they're better or worse, but they're new. I thought it was pretty much the same. But my guess is that the original xavc-L never had a 10-bit 422 4K codec written?www.VideoAbe.com
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Originally posted by ahalpert View PostWhat about the FX3? That's in the Cinema line
I have even less interest in the FX3 than the A7 cameras. In my opinion, the FX3 is not a cinema camera even if Sony wants to put it into that niche. Why fart around with cameras that claim to be cinema cameras, when we have actual cinema cameras already? I suppose Apple is calling the new iPhone a cinema camera too, but that doesn't make it so. :-)
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I couldn't care less what Sony or anyone else calls a cinema camera. I was just applying the standard you endorsed. I doubt that most bigtime DPs would deem the FX6 fit for their production either, although the a7sii was used to shoot a major motion picture, so anything is possible.
The fact is that the a7siii and particularly the fx3 are better fit for the purposes I use them for - single-grip gimbal shooting. There's no farting around because there are no workarounds necessary. The only thing it's missing from the FX6 is ND, but there are numerous aspects in which they're preferable to the FX6 for this application. And when I have different needs/wants, I use my FS7.
You may have no use for the a7siii or fx3, but other people do. And their codecs exist, simple as that.
And just in general, I've known so many owner/ops who had a c300/5d or fs7/a7s combo for A cam/B cam.Last edited by ahalpert; 10-08-2021, 03:40 PM.www.VideoAbe.com
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Originally posted by ahalpert View PostI thought the max data rate is 1.2Gbps for 4K 120fps All-I S&Q?
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Originally posted by ahalpert View PostI couldn't care less what Sony or anyone else calls a cinema camera. I was just applying the standard you endorsed. I doubt that most bigtime DPs would deem the FX6 fit for their production either, although the a7sii was used to shoot a major motion picture, so anything is possible.
The fact is that the a7siii and particularly the fx3 are better fit for the purposes I use them for - single-grip gimbal shooting. There's no farting around because there are no workarounds necessary. The only thing it's missing from the FX6 is ND, but there are numerous aspects in which they're preferable to the FX6 for this application. And when I have different needs/wants, I use my FS7.
You may have no use for the a7siii or fx3, but other people do. And their codecs exist, simple as that.
And just in general, I've known so many owner/ops who had a c300/5d or fs7/a7s combo for A cam/B cam.
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Originally posted by ahalpert View PostIThe only thing it's missing from the FX6 is ND,
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Originally posted by jmone View PostHe means, that The only thing the "FX3" is missing from the FX6 is ND
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