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    #16
    Originally posted by fleaguit
    Well, I'm receiving my gear from Britek tommorow. We've got 3 650's, a 200, a 1k and a 2k coming and we'll see how it works out. I'll post reviews as to how the equipment works out on my shoot starting next week.
    Would be really interesting to get your impressions. Look forward to see what you have to say about the lights.

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      #17
      Well, the UPS guy just left my house. He informs me he left the packages in the yard. Low and behold when I get outside, there are two boxes filled with stands. No lights, no extra bulbs, no softboxes, and no cases. Just stands. I've emailed Tom asking for the tracking numbers on the other packages, hopefully the info will be coming in soon, he's been very good about taking care of my questions so far. I'm hoping the lights just shipped seperately. The stands are decent, not super heavy duty, but they'll do the job. I bought the heavy duty stands, and I'd say these are about average compared to other light stands I've used.

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        #18
        Ok UPS just came back, delivered the first kit, received 2 650's and a 200. The construction seems pretty solid, not totally heavy weight but at least on par with the tota's we already have. Similar enough in design to an arri, I'm pretty happy. Plugged everything in, they all worked. On off a couple of times, no bulbs blown yet. I'm still waiting on a 1k, a 2k, another 650, and all the barn doors and soft boxes.

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          #19
          I have been using the Briteks (2 650's, 1 200, 1 300/250) and for the most part they have been good. the 650's and 200 have worked well, while the 250/300 light was a complete dud as soon as I got it. It has never worked right. I would recommend them definitely above work lights.
          Kevin Wells
          krwells.com

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            #20
            Originally posted by emergent pictures
            I have been using the Briteks (2 650's, 1 200, 1 300/250) and for the most part they have been good. the 650's and 200 have worked well, while the 250/300 light was a complete dud as soon as I got it. It has never worked right. I would recommend them definitely above work lights.
            Kevin,

            Is the dud one of the G-300's that are curently listed on the Rostronics website? How long have you had this model?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Kelly Olsen
              Kevin,

              Is the dud one of the G-300's that are curently listed on the Rostronics website? How long have you had this model?
              Kelly,

              Yes, here is a link the one that was a dud for me http://www.rostronics.com/proddetail...G%2D250%2F300W

              I don't remember exactly when I got it. I think it was last Fall. In all fairness, I just got busy and forgot to return it or get a refund in time, so its my faut about not getting a replacement.

              -kevin
              Kevin Wells
              krwells.com

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                #22
                Originally posted by emergent pictures
                Kelly,

                Yes, here is a link the one that was a dud for me http://www.rostronics.com/proddetail...G%2D250%2F300W

                I don't remember exactly when I got it. I think it was last Fall. In all fairness, I just got busy and forgot to return it or get a refund in time, so its my faut about not getting a replacement.

                -kevin
                If you got it last fall, it's still under warranty. You'll probably have to send it to Britek's warranty center (not to Tom), so expect a very long wait to get it back based on what others have said. However, if you're not using it anyway, why not send it in?
                www.spokefilms.com

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                  #23
                  Ok so my whole order finally arrived by the end of the day. I was harrassing tom for tracking numbers, turns out UPS just didn't see them in the back of the truck. Everything came, so here are my comments.

                  I purchased the 1300w kit, which came with two 650's (Non focuable) and a 300w light.

                  I also purchased another 650 (focusable) a 1k and a 2k.

                  Also purchased a boompole, extra softbox, and all heavy duty stands.

                  The stands are all decent, nothing great, hardly heavy duty, but they'll certainly do the job. I knew from previous reviews what I was getting into here, so I'm satisfied. I've got a couple c stands lying around we'll be using as well. The one complain I have is with the boom stand, which is pretty sturdy. Unfortunately it comes on these cheap little wheels, similar to what you would find on a cheap office chair. For 125 bucks I would have been better off buying another c stand with a boom arm. We took the wheels off right away, and put rubber stoppers on the legs instead.

                  Now the lights. The 650's all kick off a good amount of light. Combined with the 4 tota's we have, we definetely have enough light for our needs. The 300 is also nice because it comes with a short 4' stand, which is nice because it means we can get that light lower than all the others. Overall, the construction is pretty solid. Not the heaviest lights in the world, and the focus control is a bit flimsy, but again, you get what you pay for. I think the lights are definetely a good option, depending on what you're filming.

                  The big boys, the 1k and the 2k are pretty sweet. The 2k which is sort of like britek's version of an HMI is big and really blasts the room. Good for simulating sunlight, etc. I think the 2k is the best deal of the bunch, at the low price to have a light that powerfull. The 1k is pretty sturdy too, although there's a bit of an issue with the barndoors on mine, just have to tighten it up.

                  I'm pretty happy with them for the price. I'll let you guys know how the kit holds up. Overall for a low cost solution, Britek gets good marks in my book. They're definetely a good buy, especially the 2k.

                  -Steve

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                    #24
                    I've had nothing but trouble with my Rostronics / Britek fixtures since I bought them in the spring.

                    I bought the 200 and 300/600 dual globe fixtures. All of them have blown globes under the most common conditions and the fuse on the 200 (as supplied out of the box) went down within an hour of first strike.

                    The candy-shell thin plastic casing on the 300/600 effectively shattered from the heat during a sit-down interview.

                    These lights are always transported in the Britek manufactured duffle case.

                    I'm back to using the durable and reliable Arri and Altman fixtures now. Even the worst light by Lowel is markedly better than these sorry Britek lights.

                    Rostronics / Britek support has been completely lacking. My problem has been Rostronics communicating to / with Britek my information to facilitate repair or replacement.

                    In all honesty, I view the fixtures as such a liability that I'd prefer to leave them on the shelf - broken - than gamble shooting with them.

                    e
                    Erik Olson

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by overlandfilms
                      I've had nothing but trouble with my Rostronics / Britek fixtures since I bought them in the spring.

                      I bought the 200 and 300/600 dual globe fixtures. All of them have blown globes under the most common conditions and the fuse on the 200 (as supplied out of the box) went down within an hour of first strike.

                      The candy-shell thin plastic casing on the 300/600 effectively shattered from the heat during a sit-down interview.

                      In all honesty, I view the fixtures as such a liability that I'd prefer to leave them on the shelf - broken - than gamble shooting with them.
                      This pretty much has done it for me. I do read that some love them here but the above experience makes it clear that it is just hit and miss with these lights more so than any other lights so I can't afford to risk having a light blow out or worse hurting somebody.

                      Seems like a big gamble and the pay off is not worth the savings. I'll look at spending more money to get something more reliable. Guess Lowel or NRG may be the answer but I won't be getting the Rostronics/Britek lights.

                      Looks like there is no equal to the Oktava in the lighting world as there is in the mike world.

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                        #26
                        I sent an e-mail to Tom suggesting that he take a look at this thread and see if he could supply some answers and he kindly sent me the following and did so within 2 minutes.

                        "The problems some were having with the lights is due to a batch of bad
                        bulbs. The problems have been resolved and we haven't had any problems
                        lately. Replacement bulbs should be purchased through places like
                        www.bulbtronics.com or other. Sometimes Britek ships the lights with lower
                        quality bulbs (although they told me this has changed) that had a short life
                        span. It seems that when they went through a management change a while back,
                        they tries to save a few bucks by using cheap bulbs... it is back to normal
                        now though." Tom

                        I commend Tom for his reply but I'm still concerned about the other issues because it sounds like there are more than just the bulbs being a problem.

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                          #27
                          Hey guys,

                          Last night we had our first shoot with all of our new equipment for our feature film. Our movie is a sci-fi musical, set in the 1950's. Our kit right now includes 2 650's w/o focus, 1 650 w/focus, 300 w/focus, 1K, 2k, 4 lowel totas, and a pro light. Last night we filmed a scene with a couple in a convertible, sort of a makeout point type scene.

                          We used three 650's with blue gels, one had a softbox as well. We suspended one about 10 feet in the air on the boom stand that came from britek directly behind the car for simulated moonlight. The gelled softbox was used from the rear drivers side for some soft blue fill over the car. The other 650 was used to fill in a bit of the passenger side of the car, but also to keep the exposure on the car. We were shooting in a driveway infront of a garage and did not want the background to expose, so there would be pitch black behind them.

                          We also put a tota, diffused and with yellow gel on the floor of the car. This was to simulate the dashboard light, and worked well to give us a nice unobtrusive light on their faces.

                          The scenes went well and we wrapped by three. The briteks certainly performed. We had them on for over an hour straight and one point. We only striked between setups. They turned off and on, no blown bulbs. They do start to smell like sulfur after they've been on for a while though. Hopefully that's not fillament burning up. The metal casings were suprisingly cool even after they were running for a while. You could easily touch it with a bare hand.

                          My one complaint has to be the spill with the barndoors. It's been discussed here many times before, but it trully is an issue. Luckily, the simple solution is to just put black wrap around it. We had no trouble working around it.

                          Overall I'm happy with the briteks so far. Depending on what are needs are for the later scenes, I would even consider buying a couple more. Tom has been very helpfull in all our correspondences so far, and the lights did come as described. I'll keep updating on how they work out in the rest of this thread, I might post some stills or quick clips also if there's interest.

                          -Steve

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by fleaguit
                            . I'll keep updating on how they work out in the rest of this thread, I might post some stills or quick clips also if there's interest.

                            -Steve
                            I'd be interested in seeing them.

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                              #29
                              Second day of the shoot today. It was hell getting everything together, our locations fell through at the last minute and by some miracle I came up with a replacement this morning. The Briteks are holding up OK. The one 650 we were using today started smoking on us, but it seemed to be fine. We ran it for hours and it was letting off a little smoke from the barn doors, but it never caught fire or anything. Might have just been dust getting burned off.

                              We also used the 1k as an HMI to simulate a sun glare coming through the door to a laboratory, it worked flawlessly. The big lights don't seem to have as bad a spill as the 650's do from the barndoors.

                              And of course, as promised here's a shot from our saturday night shoot.

                              http://www.fleanation.com/spudsandlain.jpg

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by fleaguit
                                The one 650 we were using today started smoking on us, but it seemed to be fine.
                                My spleen was hanging out but I just shoved it back in and it seemed to be fine.

                                You seem to take things pretty calmly. Are lights supposed to smoke?

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