Film Look

[Glenn_Taylor]

Hi there, does anybody use dv film maker to give their footage that film look? Would it give as good a result as seen native on the dvx100a?

[HorseFilms]

Re: Film Look

You wouldn't get the same look. Mainly due to the fact that you'd be taking interlaced footage and making it progressive. You lose resolution when you do that.

[dakotapod]

Re: Film Look

I was under the impression maker converts without reducing resolution at all. ??? :-/

I was going to get it because it seems to run very quickly compared to other programs and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

I know Marcus from DVfilm is a member here but not sure how often he drops by to comment…

Can anyone comment a little more on this product? I was ready to grab a copy and now a tad leery. It seems to run very fast and I like the look.

Thanx!

[HorseFilms]

Re: Film Look

Hey, maybe I'm wrong (and I hope I am, because that's a pretty cool product if it doesn't hurt resolution).

[disjecta]

Re: Film Look

Just by the very nature of how interlaced footage works, you have no choice but to lose resolution. You are either going to throw away one field and duplicate the remaining one or you are going to have to combine both fields by some kind of meshing technique (like a blur, for instance or something synthetic). Either way, you are not getting full resolution once it goes through this filter.

The DVX takes full progressive frames with no interlacing artifacts. The difference is like night and day.

I know this because I used DV Filmmaker on my nicely exposed Sony DSR-250 footage and, while it gave it a vaguely filmy look, (kinda like 30p), it didn't come close to the clarity and detail you can achieve using the DVX. I also used Magic Bullet on interlaced footage with much better success but still not progressive-quality.

Great if you have no choice but to shoot interlace but if you are considering this as a potential replacement to getting a DVX, don't do it.

[dakotapod]

Re: Film Look

Not a replacement but for backup cam that has no 24p

How bad is the resolution loss?

[disjecta]

Re: Film Look

It's not all that bad and you could probably say that the average person wouldn't even notice. The point is that you are essentially trying to create the look of a progressive camera. This kind of thing can only be simulated, not created. There is no substitute for a progressive scan camera.

[Policar]

Re: Film Look

I'm not sure it's that big a difference. Dancer in the Dark was gorgeous (I think it was digibeta, though). Its motion looked half way between 24p and 30p with weird artifacts whenever there as fast motion in large parts of the frame. Still, it was better looking than anything I've seen here (although some stuff has come really close.) With a huge budget, custom adapter, and 2/3'' CCDs it should look great, though.

[dvpixl]

Re: Film Look

you people trying to say that dv film turns interlaced footage into simulated progressive image? or just deinterlaced?
it's like what dis said. night and day. can't compare the two, imo.

[dakotapod]

Re: Film Look

Trying to improve the look of footage from an XL1 :-[

You figure Magic B is a better option?

[dvpixl]

Re: Film Look

magic bullet would be the better option.

[disjecta]

Re: Film Look

Magic Bullet is a sweet program and can make interlaced footage look the best it can look so I'd definitely recommend that.

Regarding deinterlacing, that's exactly what the procedure is to turn interlaced footage into simulated progressive.

[dakotapod]

Re: Film Look

groovy - Thanx 8)

[BLUESPIDER]

Re: Film Look

Hi there,  does anybody use dv film maker to give their footage that film look?  Would it give as good a result as seen native on the dvx100a?

Learn how to light and frame your shots. Lighting makes a huge difference when it comes to making your video look film. I'm sure you already know this stuff.

[Glenn_Taylor]

Re: Film Look

Thanks alot guys(and gals of course) I'm trying to decide between cameras and this "film look" thing is important to me so the decision has been clearer for buying the DVX over the XL2. Everything else considered it seems, for what I need, the DVX is a better choice.