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    #46
    Originally posted by ahalpert View Post
    Nice set-up, Andree. How is it you always seem to be editing beach footage? #jealous
    I was going to say that I'm just reusing images already on my server for convenient linking.... but you're right: last one was Miami Beach and this is Punta Cana.

    I'll do something from the Alps next.... change of scenery...
    @andreemarkefors

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      #47
      Originally posted by AndreeOnline View Post
      Exactly! Up to 2160p30 and HDR support via HDMI.

      $195 retail and I got mine for around $90! Good times =)

      While not technically a grading screen, the LG OLED C-series are used in a lot of the largest post houses in LA as client monitors (not in the suite itself). And for what I do, my reasoning is that if it looks good/correct on my 55 C8, it's good enough for me.
      That's nice. I may save up for that next. I currently have a HD Ultrastudio mini display, so I am running 1080p till at least next year. I really like 4K imaging. I don't need it, but certainly do like it.

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        #48
        Originally posted by James0b57 View Post
        For a moment, I thought you might be AramK the guy that does Davinci Resolve tutorials.
        Definitely not AramK. You've see the short I have been slowly making with my partner (bless her). I am clearly way more handsome...
        Now, for real, I am subscribed and have seen some good stuff from him, but sometimes it feels like he is improvising a little too much for my taste.

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          #49
          Anyone have thoughts on the LG UltraFine 5K monitor? My 2015 iMac is on its last legs and I'm going to pull the trigger on the 16" MBP with the new 5600 GPU and am trying to figure out which monitor I should get for my office. I hate dual monitors, so I have quite enjoyed having a 27" 5K display on my iMac - gives me plenty of real estate to work with when editing.
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            #50
            Originally posted by chris f View Post
            Anyone have thoughts on the LG UltraFine 5K monitor? My 2015 iMac is on its last legs and I'm going to pull the trigger on the 16" MBP with the new 5600 GPU and am trying to figure out which monitor I should get for my office. I hate dual monitors, so I have quite enjoyed having a 27" 5K display on my iMac - gives me plenty of real estate to work with when editing.
            The nice thing about them, is that they are more closely made for Apple, so they should have no issues waking up with USB-C/TB3, etc. I had an issue with the BenQ SW270C, it didn't always wake up right away. I tried shaking the mouse and taping a key on the keyboard, and sometimes it would work, other times it wold stay off.

            Also, they're generally available to demo at an Apple store.

            With calibration, they should be generally accurate, and slightly above average image quality.

            Can't think of a better GUI monitor for a Mac, if you like the resolution.



            Though, this thread is more about a grading monitor, so looking more at monitors that are made for accuracy. Almost any monitor with half way decent reviews is going to allow you to get through the day. Just get it, and enjoy it. But if you are getting into grading, then the LG is a little subpar for that. Not the worst, but I feel like the Eizo CS2420 is kind of the minimum for grading.

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              #51
              Originally posted by chris f View Post
              Anyone have thoughts on the LG UltraFine 5K monitor?
              It's one of those things you might have "feelers" out for on whatever platform you use to buy used stuff. Monitors rarely takes a beating and you might find one like new for half price.

              It's a shame that there aren't more monitors like it out there. I'm on two 2560*1440. I like that size for GUI. 5K is the same of course but HiDPI. Any in-between resolution like UHD or similar is "lower" than 2560*1440 in my view, since I wouldn't run it 'native'. Haven't been tempted to run a 32" UHD in native resolution, and certainly not smaller sizes either.

              What I did do—most unfortunately—was to bring my MacBook Pro 16" to an Apple Store and hook it up to the Pro XDR. I did manage to keep the tears away, but that is the setup you want: Put the MBP in a stand, closed, attach one cable and use separate proper keyboard and trackpad. Seamless switching between SDR and HDR. Really nice image.

              I never look at price when I evaluate a product, so to me this is a beauty. The price will stop me from picking one up though, at least initially. But the size, resolution, image quality... very nice balance. It's too bad it doesn't deliver quite what Apple said it would in terms of reference level. Because of this, instead of being a great deal for a reference monitor, it becomes a luxurious prosumer display. But I'm pretty sure: a slightly "worse" (in terms of reference specs) Pro XDR with roughly the same capabilities for $2500 would easily sell 4x as much as the twice as expensive—which would be a win for Apple.

              Oh, well... I've already seen them on the used market. Maybe I get lucky....
              @andreemarkefors

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                #52
                Originally posted by AndreeOnline View Post
                It's one of those things you might have "feelers" out for on whatever platform you use to buy used stuff. Monitors rarely takes a beating and you might find one like new for half price.

                It's a shame that there aren't more monitors like it out there. I'm on two 2560*1440. I like that size for GUI. 5K is the same of course but HiDPI. Any in-between resolution like UHD or similar is "lower" than 2560*1440 in my view, since I wouldn't run it 'native'. Haven't been tempted to run a 32" UHD in native resolution, and certainly not smaller sizes either.
                That’s a really good idea. While I’m very far from being a pro colorist I’m pretty familiar with the process of calibrating my monitor with my X-Rite i1DisplayPro and DisplayCal, so as long as the monitor isn’t super worn out I imagine it would be great for editing and “good enough” for grading.

                I couldn’t quite wrap my head around why everyone recommended running the 4K version at 2560x1440 to be double retina or whatever but now I think I understand? Having two monitors like you have or one 5K monitor will keep the scaling of text, etc at a proper multiple of the native resolution?
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by chris f View Post
                  I couldn’t quite wrap my head around why everyone recommended running the 4K version at 2560x1440 to be double retina or whatever but now I think I understand? Having two monitors like you have or one 5K monitor will keep the scaling of text, etc at a proper multiple of the native resolution?
                  I always think of monitor resolution in terms of GUI size.

                  Way back we had 24" 1920x1200. That was pretty standard. Then, with 27" screens we got 2560x1440. More space. This was/is a popular GUI size for people who need space. We never actually got more than that. Apple's 5K screen in their iMacs were the first widely adopted HiDPI screens at this level. They needed to make a proprietary hardware solution to sync two panels, but it has worked well. Other manufacturers tried. There were many issues in the beginning and lots of flakiness. Dell made one screen that isn't made anymore, but those who have one are pretty happy with it it seems. Most gave up on this resolution—which again, is just 2560x1440 but doubled up. So: same about of space as a "normal" 27" screen, but typically Viewers in NLEs or photo/graphics apps show images 1:1 for crisp results.

                  Apps like Resolve gives you a different layout based on 'base resolution'. So Resolve looks the same on my 2560x1440 screens as on a 5K iMac. If you were to run Resolve on an older 15" MacBook Pro with 2880x1800, you get the 1440x900 GUI version. Same as their pre-retina 15" MacBook Pros.

                  In addition to all of this you can add that second monitor, as in my image above, which changes the layout of Resolve one again....

                  Once 5K screens failed apart from Apple's 5K iMacs, manufacturers moved back to UHD resolution. But to me this was 1920x1080 all over again. Others reacted by forcing the higher resolution in native mode turning their GUI barely readable (but lots of space). Slowly we moved from 27" with the realisation that 27" and UHD native was pretty small. I think nowadays, over 30" and UHD is semi-popular. Yet others kept the 27" and UHD but run in scaled mode. I've heard that this can be OK, but my frustation has been that the "correct" 5K was first and then there was the regression to UHD.

                  Today the LG Ultrafine is alone offering 5K.... I think... They are licensing Apple's chip if I remember correctly. And it has got the speakers and webcam.

                  Apple's Pro XDR is yet a small step up in resolution. Both actual and GUI. It's not much, but it's a really nice match between the 32" and resolution.
                  @andreemarkefors

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                    #54
                    Thanks Andree! That's super helpful. I poked around for used ones in the area and found one, but then did a little digging on the difference between model numbers (since Apple is offering these monitors as "new", but they've been around for years) and discovered this:

                    27" Models

                    27MD5KL
                    current (as of 2020) revision updated in 2019
                    added: usb-c compatibility
                    changed: contrast - 1100:1
                    changed: charging - 94w
                    changed: thunderbolt controller: Titan Ridge (EDID id: 5b74)

                    27MD5KB
                    previous
                    contrast - 1200:1
                    charging - 85w
                    thunderbolt controller: Alpine Ridge (EDID id: 5b11)

                    27MD5KA
                    original version
                    WARNING: this model caused interference issues
                    sold for a short time only at Apple stores before being removed from shelves

                    I've seen people complaining about the monitor (must be the older two) not properly supplying their MBP with enough power via the Thunderbolt cable and it looks like the "brand new" version of this monitor has fixed that issue, so unfortunately it looks like I'm back to buying brand new. (the one I found used was the original version)
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by aram View Post
                      I am clearly way more handsome...
                      agreed

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                        #56
                        Placed my order today, will report back on how the new LG UltraFine 5K performs after it's first go round with the i1DisplayPro
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by chris f View Post
                          Placed my order today, will report back on how the new LG UltraFine 5K performs after it's first go round with the i1DisplayPro
                          Looking forward to it. This monitor is such a wild card addition to this thread. This thread was started to discuss cheap professional monitors, and you come in from the other end with an expensive and lavish consumer monitor, haha. I never would have thought to compare it. Marvelous.

                          Will be interesting to hear your thoughts about it as a colour grading tool, and why one might opt for it over a $1500 entry level pro monitor or LG OLED for colour grading?

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                            #58
                            Unless I am missing something, this is only $1300 at B&H.

                            https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...rafine_5k.html

                            Might be great if you get a good one - or a dog... It all depends on luck. Interesting possibility? Looking forward to your comments, Chris f

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                              #59
                              $1,175 if you know someone who works for Apple....
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by say_doyster View Post
                                Unless I am missing something, this is only $1300 at B&H.

                                https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...rafine_5k.html

                                Might be great if you get a good one - or a dog... It all depends on luck. Interesting possibility? Looking forward to your comments, Chris f
                                I tend to round up. Not always, but I tend to. So used to hidden costs, that I do it out of habit for rough budgeting. Like I bought my Eizo for a lower price than BH has it for, but I still call it a $900 monitor, as I do the BenQ SW270C, because even though it is $880 with tax, you have to buy a cable because they have a weird DP cable and it is useless. So, I got the Eizo for less money than the BenQ, but no shade hood.

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