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    #31
    Originally posted by mainstreetprod View Post
    I have rethought selling my HVX to get a 200A or 170. I ran across a set of scene files that when implemented, have made me MUCH happier with the footage I am getting.
    That, combined with making sure things are well lit. To me, it just doesn't make sense right now to sell my camera for $2000 and spend $4000 more to replace the camera and the accessories that now won't fit (assuming I get the 170). All to get a noise improvement that will never be noticeable on the web, where 90% of my stuff goes.
    I'm waiting till my HVX dies- which, with a solid state camera, could be a long time. My VX-1000 DV camera lasted over 10 years! Also, in a year or two 200a's and 170's may be selling for 3K or so, especially when the latest greatest new one comes out.


    Well, I posted the above in '09, bought the AF100, sold it, still have the HVX , it still works perfectly and clients who aren't looking for a specific camera still love the footage. Still waiting for it to die. It may outlast me!
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      #32
      Yep, we have three and they do 50% of the work, the other 50% is all DSLR.

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        #33
        Is it obsolete? Yes.

        The more important question... does it still make you money? If the answer is "Yes", then whether or not it's obsolete is irrelevant.

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          #34
          the only time i notice my HVX is obselete is when i shoot video with my canon DSLR with a 50mm f/1.8. it makes my HVX look like it was owned by Fred Flintstone.
          someone else made an interesting point. post production is everything nowadays. if i can get clean 1080 or 720 footage then i'm 90% on my way. i'm loaded with adobe premiere pro, after effects and sony vegas 12 with tons of plugins.

          P2 will never die !!!

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            #35


            A friend of mine with a borrowed TV Station camera ( Philippines ). Photo taken only a few months ago...

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              #36
              Where can I get those scene files?

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                #37
                It's not obsolete because I can still get mine to match other newer cleaner video (not shallow dof dslr) cams by simply adding a little Neat Video denoiser plug in, some sharpening and a little bit of a luma curves filter and we're good to go. This is all the easier by adding the filters to an adjustment layer in Premier Pro over the whole thing. Yes, a bit more leg work but hard pressed to tell the difference on the web or less than huge tv's.
                Last edited by Poco; 08-03-2013, 12:26 AM.

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                  #38
                  Oh yes, I have been hanging with my HVX200 since 2006. I also use GH2 and now just bought the BMCC MFT after the price drop. I will use the HVX
                  for some legacy clients but that is about it. I have also been renting it out. I will keep it until it quits working and then move on.

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                    #39
                    I'll tell you what -- HVX BootCamp DVDs still go out the door, so someone's still out there using HVXs.
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                      #40
                      August 3, 2013... still a popular choice with TV Stations

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by EDV View Post
                        August 3, 2013... still a popular choice with TV Stations
                        What TV stations are still shooting 4:3? I'm guessing only the smaller ones without budgets to upgrade. I'd highly reccommend to anyone thinking about shooting 4:3 on a HVX b/c it takes less P2 card space to instead shoot 720NP30. It is only 50mbps, so you can get over 2 hours on a 64GB card, if you shoot 4:3 safe you can crop the picture for broadcast, but have a 16:9 HD master for future proofing.
                        Where are all the S-VHS hipsters?

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                          #42
                          A lot of TV content is still 4:3, especially on cable. It's not a matter of budget... in some countries, most people haven't upgraded to flat widescreens, so I guess it makes sense to use 4:3 sometimes. Regardless, this thread isn't about aspect ratio... the Pannys are still being used as you saw in the photo.

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                            #43
                            obsolete is perhaps not the question, as use case plays a large role.

                            If you want to make stuff that has a desired aesthetic or a filmic look, or you're a freelancer/enthusiast/hobbyist I would say the HVX is pretty to close to obsolete aesthetically. But you probably already know that if you have seen content shot on newer cameras.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by filmguy123 View Post
                              If you want to make stuff that has a desired aesthetic or a filmic look, or you're a freelancer/enthusiast/hobbyist I would say the HVX is pretty to close to obsolete aesthetically.
                              I have to disagree here filmguy. The HVX / HPX is known for its "filmic" look ( even without a 35mm adapter ) Countless TV ads and music videos and even some Films can credit this. I have seen the latest and greatest from budget Pro cameras, and they look a bit too sharp to my eyes. I can't recall 35mm film being that sharp? CCDs vs CMOS I guess, but I like the richer colors of CCDs... especially in 4:2:2 , which by the way, is still broadcast standard.
                              Last edited by EDV; 08-07-2013, 05:29 PM.

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                                #45
                                The HVX has the Panasonic mojo. It has it, the DVX had it. That will never be obsolete.
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