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    Shelf-Life of the HVX

    This is has been a burning question for me lately, and I realize it may not be answerable at this time, but: how much longer could one could realistically expect the HVX200 to remain the P2 HD camera of its class? I'm not familiar with the relative market trends, so does the release of the 'A model signify that it's nearing the end, or that it still has a long way to go? Seing as the original was released in 2005, I would expect something bearing more features, or at least a slimmer build by now.

    I only ask because I have been coveting this device for quite some time now, but I fear that by taking the plunge too early on this late in the game, I'll miss out on an opportunity to get the next-in-line, like something that has AVC-Intra—which seems likely if Panasonic continues in the same vein as some of the newer professional (and consumer) releases we've been hearing about for their prosumer line.

    #2
    Originally posted by IRecordThings View Post
    This is has been a burning question for me lately, and I realize it may not be answerable at this time, but: how much longer could one could realistically expect the HVX200 to remain the P2 HD camera of its class? I'm not familiar with the relative market trends, so does the release of the 'A model signify that it's nearing the end, or that it still has a long way to go? Seing as the original was released in 2005, I would expect something bearing more features, or at least a slimmer build by now.
    Which is what the HPX170 is all about.
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      #3
      Panasonic should have a trade–in program for owners of the HVX200 that would like to up-grade to the HVX200A.

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        #4
        Originally posted by John Caballero View Post
        Panasonic should have a trade–in program for owners of the HVX200 that would like to up-grade to the HVX200A.
        Like THAT is going to happen.
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          #5
          Digidesign has just this sort of program for trade-ins of their PCI-X Pro Tools DAW systems on newer PCI-e equivalents. Problem is, it's way cheaper - I mean *way* cheaper - to sell your old (used) system and buy a new (or lightly used) one on ebay. Panasonic, being an OEM company, would probably do more or less the same as Digi if it did so.

          If a new HVX200a costs the same as the original did ($5200), my guess is that you'd probably be able to "flip" them for $1200-1700. I doubt Panasonic could match that on a trade-in.
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            #6
            Originally posted by John Caballero View Post
            Panasonic should have a trade–in program for owners of the HVX200 that would like to up-grade to the HVX200A.
            There is a program available; it called ebay!

            Sorry to come across as a smart "a", but that is kind of like expecting Chevy to give me an upgrade on my '07 Silverado because they came out with an '08 model.

            Although, it would not surprise me to see Panny make updates available that are purely software-based. Like maybe the waveform and vectorscope (assuming of course that those are software enhancements).

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              #7
              The secondary market for the HVX200, like the DVX100/a/b before it, will likely remain robust in spite of newer models.

              Also consider that the price for a US market 200 isn't significantly lower than when it was first introduced. Use the 200 for a year, make a little money with it and then sell it for 10-25% less than what you paid. It should, if you consider it a rental, pay for itself more than once over before the new models hit the street.

              Then, if you're patient, you can take advantage of the P2 card / 170 / 200a bundles that will come shortly after the early adopters start to fall off.

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              Erik Olson

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                #8
                Red is gonna do it with the Red One and Epic. Can't Panasonic learn a lesson or two from the americans?
                I myself wouldn’t buy a used HVX200 or any digital camera for that matter. I will not dump mine on anybody either. I rather donate it or throw it in the garbage.
                Last edited by John Caballero; 04-15-2008, 09:40 AM.

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                  #9
                  where in the city are you? I'd like to go through your garbage if you dont mind
                  Mike Hechanova
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by John Caballero View Post
                    Red is gonna do it with the Red One and Epic. Can't Panasonic learn a lesson or two from the americans?
                    I myself wouldn’t buy a used HVX200 or any digital camera for that matter. I will not dump mine on anybody either. I rather donate it or throw it in the garbage.
                    Hilarious. You and that guy who beats the hell out of his DSLRs and PDAs should get together and date.

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                    Erik Olson

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                      #11
                      Ok, first I'll throw it off the roof of my building, while recording with the medium format lens adapter I got for shallow DOF, then both of them will go to the garbage. That should be a little better, more exciting at least. Oh no...maybe then i'll put them on ebay!
                      Last edited by John Caballero; 04-15-2008, 02:18 PM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barry_Green View Post
                        Which is what the HPX170 is all about.
                        Yes, but it doesn't come with a tape deck, which while it's not an absolute necessity, does expand my delivery and acquisition options. And since (as far as I know), it's not intended intended to be an HVX replacement, I'm wondering what will be.

                        Originally posted by Erik Olson View Post
                        The secondary market for the HVX200, like the DVX100/a/b before it, will likely remain robust in spite of newer models.

                        Also consider that the price for a US market 200 isn't significantly lower than when it was first introduced. Use the 200 for a year, make a little money with it and then sell it for 10-25% less than what you paid. It should, if you consider it a rental, pay for itself more than once over before the new models hit the street.

                        Then, if you're patient, you can take advantage of the P2 card / 170 / 200a bundles that will come shortly after the early adopters start to fall off.

                        e
                        Sensible advice; thanks. I think my only reservation about it though is how attached I'll get to the cam once I actually have it. :P

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                          #13
                          If the HVX 200A is better than the 200, as Panasonic claims, you will have a heck of a camera in your hands to work and make money with. I like the tape option in my 200 and have used it in many occasions. The footage you get from it, especially 16:9 is still beautiful.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by John Caballero View Post
                            Ok, first I'll throw it off the roof of my building, while recording with the medium format lens adapter I got for shallow DOF, then both of them will go to the garbage. That should be a little better, more exciting at least. Oh no...maybe then i'll put them on ebay!
                            John,

                            Sounds like you should jump off the roof of your building, make sure you have your hvx or red or whatever rolling so we can all watch...

                            Trust me it's not the camera it's the content

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by John Caballero View Post
                              Panasonic should have a trade–in program for owners of the HVX200 that would like to up-grade to the HVX200A.
                              And Canon should have a trade-in program for owners of the XLH1 to upgrade to the XLH1S.

                              And Sony should have a trade-in program for owners of the EX1 to upgrade to the EX3.

                              And BMW should have a trade-in program for ownes of the 5-series who want to upgrade to the 7-series.

                              And Apple should have a trade-in program for owners of the Powerbook who want to upgrade to the Macbook. And for owners of the 4-core Mac Pro to upgrade to the 8-core Mac Pro.

                              Come on.
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