Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

3 things for an AF successor

Collapse
This is a sticky topic.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #61
    Wider dynamic range
    2k resolution
    10 bit
    you can add 4 grand to the price

    Comment


      #62
      Originally posted by David W. Jones View Post
      I know I'm reaching here, but an anamorphic mode with monitor unsqueeze and guides would be a killer addition.
      +1
      writer/director/producer
      www.22ndplot.de
      http://www.vimeo.com/user1958347

      Comment


        #63
        A consideration... Many of us use external HDMI EVFs, I use the Z-Finder... Problem is, if you use an external recorder (which I don't yet) you have to turn off the display information. Much of that is important when working fast, hand-held, w/o an AC. Battery, card info, WB, etc...

        It would be nice if you had the option to leave the display on with HDMI, but turn it off with SDI.

        Comment


          #64
          Originally posted by Mac View Post
          A consideration... Many of us use external HDMI EVFs, I use the Z-Finder... Problem is, if you use an external recorder (which I don't yet) you have to turn off the display information. Much of that is important when working fast, hand-held, w/o an AC. Battery, card info, WB, etc...

          It would be nice if you had the option to leave the display on with HDMI, but turn it off with SDI.
          +1
          Pudgy bearded camera guy
          http://mcbob.tv

          Comment


            #65
            A second shoe mount at the back of the camera, preferably at a right angle/on the side of the handle on the same side as the LCD. There are times when I need to use two wireless mics, and have to use an extra adapter to attach them both to the camera. Plus, having the ability to look at/have access to the receiver without having to move the camera to access the top front shoe mount would be awfully darn convenient.

            Comment


              #66
              i think the body it self should get some improvements as well..... i would like the AF200 to be not that high as its now, but i want it longer (and if its necessary wider), and the monitor closer to the sensor (move it forward a little)..... as now if i push the camcorder against my shoulder i cant see the monitor! plus i would like 2 rosettes on sides and more holes at the bottom..... Thats would be better for handheld i believe! improoved mount so it could take 70-200 or heavier without support, for sure we need an ISO wheel for easy select, -

              8bit 4:2:2 35/50 mb/s internal (with a chance to do it with SDhc or SDxc)
              3g hdsdi out for raw
              1:1 focus
              better slow motion


              no more then 4000$ extra to the current price,

              Comment


                #67
                1. 1:1 focus assist
                2. Better slow motion
                3. Dual recording capability (on the SD cards)

                Comment


                  #68
                  1. Address banding issues and fix them any way that works - different codec, higher bit rate, better dsp, higher color depth - I don't care which way as long as there is a marked improvement and so that footage can be pushed further in post and we are not so locked into production day camera "looks".
                  2. Increased dynamic range. (to match film's 14 stops would be an amazing goal)
                  3. Highlight handling markedly better.


                  Otherwise, I love the camera. Make these changes and I'll be glad to buy the new model.
                  Last edited by Steve Kahn; 06-05-2012, 04:55 PM.
                  Kahn Artist Filmworks
                  FaceBook

                  Comment


                    #69
                    Originally posted by anatusa View Post
                    i think the body it self should get some improvements as well..... i would like the AF200 to be not that high as its now, but i want it longer (and if its necessary wider), and the monitor closer to the sensor (move it forward a little)..... as now if i push the camcorder against my shoulder i cant see the monitor! plus i would like 2 rosettes on sides and more holes at the bottom..... Thats would be better for handheld i believe! improoved mount so it could take 70-200 or heavier without support, for sure we need an ISO wheel for easy select, -

                    8bit 4:2:2 35/50 mb/s internal (with a chance to do it with SDhc or SDxc)
                    3g hdsdi out for raw
                    1:1 focus
                    better slow motion


                    no more then 4000$ extra to the current price,
                    +1 whoever can transition the end user to a usable form factor (no more mutant camcorder) is going to win big...

                    Comment


                      #70
                      Originally posted by anatusa View Post

                      8bit 4:2:2 35/50 mb/s internal (with a chance to do it with SDhc or SDxc)
                      Camera is already 8bit. Aren't we supposed to be listing improvements?
                      But what do I know...
                      "Our arrows will block out the sun!"
                      "Fool, we have HMIs!"

                      Comment


                        #71
                        1. 2k resolution: improved sharpness
                        2. 10 bit 4.2.2
                        3. 120+ fps
                        http://www.panasonicforbusiness.com/...onic-ag-af100/ www.iamaffected.com Panasonic AF-100, RED Epic-X "Kalel", Red Rocket, Zeiss ZF Lenses

                        Comment


                          #72
                          Rather than three features to add, I have three issues with the camera that I'd want to improve. I'm agnostic as to which technology choices are the best way to achieve this but have a couple of suggestions.

                          1) Fix the banding. (Improved dither algorithms, less compression, more bits would probably all help).

                          2) Improve colour rendition generally and high-light roll-off especially, with a lot of work done on fine tuning skin tones. (More dynamic range would help, but tuning chroma response at high exposure would help, and scene files and colour matrices should be re-evaluated in terms of what a 2012 digital cine large sensor camera really needs, not what's traditionally worked for DVX/HVX).

                          3) Fix the missed focus issues. (1:1 focus assist whilst recording and a much bigger and better screen would help. Or focus on an iPad… really, given how cheap iPads are, why can't we have a screen of that quality on the camera? Even if you do it by buying an iPad and plugging it in?)

                          I have to admit that I'm no longer in the market for an AF100 successor, because Scarlet has solved all these issues for me. But if these had been fixed on the AF100, I might not have felt so compelled to find solutions elsewhere.

                          Cheers, Hywel.

                          Comment


                            #73
                            Originally posted by dtzfilms View Post
                            Camera is already 8bit. Aren't we supposed to be listing improvements?
                            But what do I know...
                            yes its 8bit, but 4:2:0 with just 28mb/s....... but i want 4:2:2 and higher bit rate internal.

                            btw i forgot to tell ------ USB 3.0 ------ plz....... its kind of hard to wait for 32GB transfer... would love to speed up that process!

                            Comment


                              #74
                              Originally posted by anatusa View Post
                              yes its 8bit, but 4:2:0 with just 28mb/s....... but i want 4:2:2 and higher bit rate internal.

                              btw i forgot to tell ------ USB 3.0 ------ plz....... its kind of hard to wait for 32GB transfer... would love to speed up that process!
                              yes, yes, yes we know it's 4:2:0 blah-blah internal. Point is why ask for 8bit if it's already 8bit? Ask, instead, for internal 10bit and your 4:2:2 and your USB yabbadabbadoo - I didn't address your 4:2:2 request, just your 8bit. In case you're unaware, they're not mutually exclusive. You CAN have 10bit and 4:2:2 and all that yabbadabbadoo stuff. And while you're at it why not throw in Thunderbolt? I mean the technology is finding it's way onto PCs as well now, so it's not just a mac thang, ya dig? Thunderbolt incinerates everything!!

                              Aren't the new Samurais Thunderbolt equipped? Will someone more knowledgeable chime in. Personally, the AF??? will "probably" make the Samurai slightly redundant yet also a truly redundant solution.

                              I don't even know why I bother - I'm gonna go back in time, fix the stock market, return to now, and buy a clutch of Keved up ARRI Alexas and all the accouterments of filmmaking! Make a bunch of Jumbaco commercials in 6D - that's right 6D, sucker! Bet you didn't see that coming, Canon!

                              I mean for me - I'm so used to Panasonic that I'll give them one more chance with this successor, but if I jump ships, it'll only be because my ships came home and Bassanio and I can ignore Shylock and marry a fair Alexa.
                              "Our arrows will block out the sun!"
                              "Fool, we have HMIs!"

                              Comment


                                #75
                                Originally posted by dtzfilms View Post
                                yes, yes, yes we know it's 4:2:0 blah-blah internal. Point is why ask for 8bit if it's already 8bit? Ask, instead, for internal 10bit and your 4:2:2 and your USB yabbadabbadoo - I didn't address your 4:2:2 request, just your 8bit. In case you're unaware, they're not mutually exclusive. You CAN have 10bit and 4:2:2 and all that yabbadabbadoo stuff. And while you're at it why not throw in Thunderbolt? I mean the technology is finding it's way onto PCs as well now, so it's not just a mac thang, ya dig? Thunderbolt incinerates everything!!
                                thing is that i am not looking for +-20 000$ camcorder (if u want it - there are some already! u need it? - use it) , thats why i dont ask. i do want an option of 10bit or more, BUT only externally for high pro payed work, but for my general jobs i dont need 10 bit and extreme high bit rates like pro res or else with very expansive recording media like p2 or else..... (currently anything higher then 50mb/s over kills me) ! I want to keep recording on SD or CF cards.... I want Good, normally priced camcorder with nice internal recordings. everything else if/ when i will need it - i want to be able to record it externally. but thats all!
                                i like the price point of my pany and i dont mind to pay few extra grands for improved and some extra features! - i`ve seen Ari and Red at work and its not what i need for everyday work and i cant pay for it....

                                the only reason why i dont buy samurai - i dont need it :-) , i mean i dont need pro res and i dont even want to mess with it. give me 50mb/s and i ll buy it "yesterday".... but 100-220mb/s -i dont want these huge files and most important i dont need it for my every day job! i want 8bit 4:2:2 50mb/s - something like canon c300 does internally!

                                What u r talking about - would not be AF200 - it would be completely different camcorder at a completely different price rage...for a different market.

                                thats why i dont ask for 10bit, unless i am missing something and 10bit can fit in the 50mb/s and on SD card - what is hard to believe!
                                Last edited by anatusa; 06-13-2012, 06:52 PM.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X