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    #16
    Can anyone comment on the performance or durability differences between the circular 4x5.65 polarizers across the price spectrum of $99 to $374?

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      #17
      Originally posted by Jon Furtado View Post
      Hmm..The Tita one i'm brooding on does only 4X4's. But, that shouldn't be a problem because of the AF100's crop factor right?
      Jon, you would think this was a complex topic. To answer your question, yes, a 4x4 mattebox with an M43 camera works great since you have 2x crop factor and "smaller" diameter SLR lenses. Basically, any matteboxes you would put on a GH2 DSLR will work the same on an AF100. For fun, we tried a 4x4 mattebox on an AF100 with a lens at 14mm with zero problems... I'm sure you could go even wider as well.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Kindredmachine View Post
        Jon, you would think this was a complex topic. To answer your question, yes, a 4x4 mattebox with an M43 camera works great since you have 2x crop factor and "smaller" diameter SLR lenses. Basically, any matteboxes you would put on a GH2 DSLR will work the same on an AF100. For fun, we tried a 4x4 mattebox on an AF100 with a lens at 14mm with zero problems... I'm sure you could go even wider as well.
        Yes, but what happens when he decides to get a different camera with a larger sensor and ups to Cine glass? Just saying.
        Realistically how long do you plan on using your AF100? Likely 3 years tops. And how long do you plan on using your matte box & filter set? Lifetime.

        I have a stack of 72mm filters, 77mm filters, 4x4 filters, and 4x5.65 filters. They all do the same job, But if I had known then what I know now, I would have bought once rather than four times.

        Bottom line... Absolutely nothing wrong with a 4x4 matte box, but having 2 4x5.65 trays pretty much future proofs your purchase.

        All he Best!

        Dave

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          #19
          Originally posted by Erik Naso View Post
          Not true. My mattebox is a 4x4 16:9 Chrosziel and its smaller than a panavision and has both 4x4 and 4x5.65 frames. Its perfect, I sold my Redrock because it was a beast.
          Erik,
          I just got a Redrock Micro for my AF100, and yes, it is BIG. (Difficult to fit it in the same case with camera and lenses.) The mattebox, excluding rails, flags, and swing away mechanism, measures about 11.25" x 7.5" x 4.5". Could you tell me what a Chrosziel measures?

          Thanks,
          Ken
          Last edited by Ken Hull; 05-03-2012, 08:30 PM.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Ken Hull View Post
            Erik,
            I just got a Redrock Micro for my AF100, and yes, it is BIG. (Difficult to fit it in the same case with camera and lenses.) The mattebox, excluding rails, flags, and swing away mechanism, measures about 11.25" x 7.5" x 4.5". Could you tell me what a Chrosziel measures?

            Thanks,
            Ken
            I had the Redrock and sold it. It was to big and heavy for the cameras I use. I found that if the rails stick out about two inches I can change lenses easily without issues or I can hand my grip the mattebox. Gotta have a grip. Its more fun that way.
            Mine is from the 4x3 era but is 16x9 and its perfect for MFT and S35 HD cameras. Even my Tokina 11-16 works with no issues at 11mm.

            Mine is 6.25" x 8.50”

            I love it.

            Here is the issue. We have to much weight on the front of our light weight cameras. So then we have to balance it out on the back. I try to keep it simple and light as possible so I don’t have to add more counter balance to the rig. Simple is the key. I use a Tilta baseplate that is perfect for the AF-100. Its so much lighter than the Zacuto I have and has a built in shoulder pad.
            I put a gold mount battery on the back and it balances the rig very well for handheld work. If I need it more compact I can use shorter rails in the back to bring the battery in closer or take it off.
            Again. Keeping the front of the camera light was a big deal for me since my PL lenses are kinda heavy
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              #21
              Thanks Erik,

              6.25 x 8.5 sounds a lot more manageable. I suppose current models will be slightly different, to accommodate wider aspect ratios. Odd that Chrosziel doesn't list the dimensions in their literature; seems like it would be a good selling point. (Although they do mention carbon fiber.)

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                #22
                I saw the new Chrosziel at NAB. I liked them a lot. They are smaller than Panavision standard and work well for our cameras. Now if I had a Red then I would need the big boy!
                I took some pics of it. If I find them I will post it.
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Erik Naso View Post
                  I had the Redrock and sold it. It was to big and heavy for the cameras I use. I found that if the rails stick out about two inches I can change lenses easily without issues or I can hand my grip the mattebox. Gotta have a grip. Its more fun that way.
                  Mine is from the 4x3 era but is 16x9 and its perfect for MFT and S35 HD cameras. Even my Tokina 11-16 works with no issues at 11mm.

                  Mine is 6.25" x 8.50Ē

                  I love it.

                  Here is the issue. We have to much weight on the front of our light weight cameras. So then we have to balance it out on the back. I try to keep it simple and light as possible so I donít have to add more counter balance to the rig. Simple is the key. I use a Tilta baseplate that is perfect for the AF-100. Its so much lighter than the Zacuto I have and has a built in shoulder pad.
                  I put a gold mount battery on the back and it balances the rig very well for handheld work. If I need it more compact I can use shorter rails in the back to bring the battery in closer or take it off.
                  Again. Keeping the front of the camera light was a big deal for me since my PL lenses are kinda heavy
                  I'd really like to get the complete Tilta DSLR rig and call it a day. Someone on here did it for their FS100 and they love it. Without trying everything on in a store, it seems to be a crap shoot if you try the piece by piece route.

                  I don't work with that much large cine glass. While I have my Zeiss cine primes, they are smaller diameter ones. So, I think i'd be fine. Besides, if I had a job where I had to rent a 20-100 Cooke, i'm pretty sure i'd be able to spring on renting the mattebox and filters for said job. Just saying.
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                    #24
                    If the Tilta mattebox has one rotating stage and is some what compact give it go. Their stuff is nice so I would imagine it’s built well. But if you hate it don’t blame me. I love spending other peoples money.
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