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    #31
    If you take two samples one from each internal AVCHD vs PRORES the main difference is this. AVCHD smears the image compared to the PRORES file. It's not by much but enough to rob the image of some detail. This smearing also contributes to higher probability to run into banding with AVCHD than with PRORES. The higher bitrate and nature of PRORES makes it more robust when moving the camera fast.

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      #32
      I cant see any major discernible difference between AVCHD and Prores HQ (except on the scopes) but 4 2 2 is absolutely the better way to go for post work.

      I believe one gets an external recorder for more reasons rather than just the expectation....ones pictures will automatically look better.
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      RR baseplate , F/F, Shoot35 Cinebox, Panasonic 1700HD Monitors. Adaptimax adapters. Ikan VX7e. Samurai

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        #33
        I think it can offer more options to imperfect scenarios, you can push stuff around more in post.

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          #34
          Okay, so I got myself:

          A nice monitor.
          Automatic backup of my media.
          Works in the exactly the codec I want (422).
          Works with no problems so far together with the AG-AF 101.
          Small, lightweight, almost obscenely easy to use even for someone who is no DP (moi).
          Nice little travel case, docking station & adapters, drives are easy to install and the touch screen display is fine and not complicated to use.

          Questions remaining:

          Why no AC connector/adapter (at least here in Germany)?
          Will it be reliable?
          Are connectors and body stable enough in constant work?
          When will the AVID-codec come?
          What else might be in store with firmware upgrades?

          For the price it has it's the machine for me to have. Others can do more and better maybe - but: My neighbours 7er BMW also is quicker than my little Suzuki. But as the latter is good enough for me and for what I need I rather spend my money on other things (cameras for instance..;-)).

          Good buy? Ask me in January but for now I honestly like to think: Yes.
          writer/director/producer
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            #35
            Has anyone seen this one? camera is set 24fps and some of the footages have some sort of mirror effect.
            SAMURAI_S001_S001_T027.jpg
            Last edited by Berk; 12-21-2011, 09:09 AM.

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              #36
              How did the same scene show on the AVCHD file?
              www.shooterfilm.co.nz

              Panasonic AF102

              SONY-FS700R

              RR baseplate , F/F, Shoot35 Cinebox, Panasonic 1700HD Monitors. Adaptimax adapters. Ikan VX7e. Samurai

              Prime Lenses: Nikkors . 20/f2.8, 24/f2.8, 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.4, 50/f2, Micro 55/f3.5, Micro 60/f2.8, 85/f1.8, 105/f2.5, 135/f2.8, Contax -Zeiss 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.7, 85/f2.8

              VariPrimes: Nikkor 17-35/f2.8, Nikkor 28-70/f2.8,

              GH2. Olympus 14-54 MkII

              Cartoni , Weaver Heads , Miller legs. Zhuter Slider

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                #37
                internal recording was fine. thanks

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                  #38
                  Can you replicate the issue and is it imtermittent?

                  Upside at least is ...great having the back up file.
                  www.shooterfilm.co.nz

                  Panasonic AF102

                  SONY-FS700R

                  RR baseplate , F/F, Shoot35 Cinebox, Panasonic 1700HD Monitors. Adaptimax adapters. Ikan VX7e. Samurai

                  Prime Lenses: Nikkors . 20/f2.8, 24/f2.8, 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.4, 50/f2, Micro 55/f3.5, Micro 60/f2.8, 85/f1.8, 105/f2.5, 135/f2.8, Contax -Zeiss 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.7, 85/f2.8

                  VariPrimes: Nikkor 17-35/f2.8, Nikkor 28-70/f2.8,

                  GH2. Olympus 14-54 MkII

                  Cartoni , Weaver Heads , Miller legs. Zhuter Slider

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tipota View Post
                    Okay, so I got myself:

                    A nice monitor.
                    Automatic backup of my media.
                    Works in the exactly the codec I want (422).
                    Works with no problems so far together with the AG-AF 101.
                    Small, lightweight, almost obscenely easy to use even for someone who is no DP (moi).
                    Nice little travel case, docking station & adapters, drives are easy to install and the touch screen display is fine and not complicated to use.

                    Questions remaining:

                    Why no AC connector/adapter (at least here in Germany)?
                    Will it be reliable?
                    Are connectors and body stable enough in constant work?
                    When will the AVID-codec come?
                    What else might be in store with firmware upgrades?

                    For the price it has it's the machine for me to have. Others can do more and better maybe - but: My neighbours 7er BMW also is quicker than my little Suzuki. But as the latter is good enough for me and for what I need I rather spend my money on other things (cameras for instance..;-)).

                    Good buy? Ask me in January but for now I honestly like to think: Yes.
                    Agreed
                    Foundation Digital Media
                    foundationdigitalmedia.com

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                      #40
                      My Sumurai arrives tomorrow. If I'm unhappy, I'm holding all of you personally responsible! :-)
                      jeff

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by jmarkham View Post
                        My Sumurai arrives tomorrow. If I'm unhappy, I'm holding all of you personally responsible! :-)
                        jeff
                        Blame Santa instead!
                        www.shooterfilm.co.nz

                        Panasonic AF102

                        SONY-FS700R

                        RR baseplate , F/F, Shoot35 Cinebox, Panasonic 1700HD Monitors. Adaptimax adapters. Ikan VX7e. Samurai

                        Prime Lenses: Nikkors . 20/f2.8, 24/f2.8, 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.4, 50/f2, Micro 55/f3.5, Micro 60/f2.8, 85/f1.8, 105/f2.5, 135/f2.8, Contax -Zeiss 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.7, 85/f2.8

                        VariPrimes: Nikkor 17-35/f2.8, Nikkor 28-70/f2.8,

                        GH2. Olympus 14-54 MkII

                        Cartoni , Weaver Heads , Miller legs. Zhuter Slider

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by jmarkham View Post
                          My Sumurai arrives tomorrow. If I'm unhappy, I'm holding all of you personally responsible! :-)
                          jeff
                          There is an ocean between us....;-)

                          I will wait with a final verdict until I have really tested the machine in more daring circumstances, but for now it seems to be quite okay.
                          writer/director/producer
                          www.22ndplot.de
                          http://www.vimeo.com/user1958347

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                            #43
                            Hey Shooter,

                            What video card(s) are you running?
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                            L.A.

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                              #44
                              Quadro FX 3800s
                              www.shooterfilm.co.nz

                              Panasonic AF102

                              SONY-FS700R

                              RR baseplate , F/F, Shoot35 Cinebox, Panasonic 1700HD Monitors. Adaptimax adapters. Ikan VX7e. Samurai

                              Prime Lenses: Nikkors . 20/f2.8, 24/f2.8, 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.4, 50/f2, Micro 55/f3.5, Micro 60/f2.8, 85/f1.8, 105/f2.5, 135/f2.8, Contax -Zeiss 28/f2.8, 35/f2.8, 50/f1.7, 85/f2.8

                              VariPrimes: Nikkor 17-35/f2.8, Nikkor 28-70/f2.8,

                              GH2. Olympus 14-54 MkII

                              Cartoni , Weaver Heads , Miller legs. Zhuter Slider

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