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There is one thing i can't understand, all pics around the internet about this comparison(they all compared with 35mm, 2/3" and 4/3) have the same picture of micro 4/3. I know its the bigger sensor comparing to others but why do they show the 4/3 sensor with attached to the board, it can't be the sensor it self, i can see the sensor in the middle, they don't need to show it bigger then others, it was the same visiuals on NAB annoucement, must be a technical reason on that?
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Originally posted by Barry_Green View PostHave you ever used AVCCAM?
Other than a 4:2:0 versus 4:2:2 and the long GOP issues, can you compare the visual quality differences between the HPX300/370 AVCINTRA100 image and what you expect (reasonably) from the AF100?David S.
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Originally posted by David S. View PostOther than a 4:2:0 versus 4:2:2 and the long GOP issues, can you compare the visual quality differences between the HPX300/370 AVCINTRA100 image and what you expect (reasonably) from the AF100?
Intra 100 offers nearly-uncompressed quality and 10-bit color, which are huge advantages (and one reason I keep clamoring for a P2/Intra version of the AF100).
But people who are ragging on AVCCAM, I don't quite understand it. It looks pretty good. The HMC40 turns out images that are way nicer than they should be, considering the price, and it's definitely better than XDCAM-EX. No, it's not AVC-Intra, but it's better than XDCAM-EX and about 5x better than HDV, and it's recording on cheap SD cards, so -- what exactly is the problem?
If a better codec means that much to someone, they could always use a NanoFlash for 160mbps intraframe 4:2:2, or they could use an HPG20 and get AVC-Intra100 at 10-bit and 4:2:2.
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Originally posted by dmpsk8 View PostIs that an electronic adapter for Nikon glass in one of the pics?
Now of course this camera is not going to be perfect, but it will damn sure do the job until perfect gets here! (I hope!!).
Come on Panasonic.... do us right!."The enemy of art is the absence of limitations"
-Orson Wells.
"To me the great hope is... people that normally wouldn't be making movies will make them and suddenly some little fat girl in Ohio will be the new Mozart and will make a beautiful film using her father's camera-corder and the "Professionalism" of movie making will be destroyed forever and it will finally become an art form."
-Francis Ford Coppola.
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Originally posted by Barry_Green View PostHave you ever used AVCCAM?
I'm waiting for the big brother P2 version. That or Scarlet, whatever gets here first.
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Originally posted by Barry_Green View PostBut people who are ragging on AVCCAM, I don't quite understand it. It looks pretty good. The HMC40 turns out images that are way nicer than they should be, considering the price, and it's definitely better than XDCAM-EX. No, it's not AVC-Intra, but it's better than XDCAM-EX and about 5x better than HDV, and it's recording on cheap SD cards, so -- what exactly is the problem?
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Originally posted by robertrogoz View PostAnd you are not ragging on XDCAM EX codec? I find your opinion biased.
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Originally posted by hfarberg View PostWell, I can see what he means. XDCAM EX is 35 Mbps MPEG-2, while AVCCAM on the HMC40 is what, 28 Mbps H.264 basically? So I'd say the codec of the HMC40 contains at least 1.5 times as much information as the XDCAM EX-codec. (H.264 is supposedly twice as efficient as MPEG-2)
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I've had the exact opposite opinion. I owned an HVX and also the 150 and just ended up selling the HVX cause to my eye, and my clients, it looked virtually the same... and under a lot of situations it looked a lot better. The codec I find is robust enough to do CC and I've been more than happy with the 150. The only advantage I'd give the HVX was in the ability to do greenscreen.... other than that, I' super happy with the 150 and so is my bank account. I think the AF100 will be my next choice of camera... unless the Red people pull a rabit out of a hat.
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Originally posted by Barry_Green View PostReally? Haven't kept up with the updates then, last time I looked at it it was 160mpbs. So nearly 300mbps...
Is it still 8-bit only, or does it support 10 now?
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