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    List of cameras that can record RAW internally

    Does anyone know where I could find a current list of cameras (mirrorless and cinema) that have the ability to record 4K RAW internally?
    Doug Jensen, Sony camcorder instructor
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    #2
    Everything from RED, everything from Blackmagic (besides studio cameras), Canon C200 - R5 - R5 C - R3 - C70 - 1DX Mark III - C300 Mark III - C500 Mark II - and Nikon Z9.

    The rest were sued to remove CinemaDNG or ProRes RAW (including Z9 which will likely, eventually remove it).

    If there's anything missing (don't think so), I or someone else will add it.

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      #3
      There are also discontinued cameras from Kinefinity which shoot KineRAW/CinemaDNG and Digital Bolex which shoot CinemaDNG.

      And the Sigma fp/fp L can record 8-bit CinemaDNG internally (12-bit externally).

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        #4
        Arri Alexa LF, MiniLF, Alexa 65, Alexa 35. Amira's (with license) and older Alexa's can record RAW internally, as well, but they aren't (true) 4K/UHD. Although Open Gate ARRIRAW on the SXT W is close.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Doug Jensen View Post
          Does anyone know where I could find a current list of cameras (mirrorless and cinema) that have the ability to record 4K RAW internally?
          why do you ask?
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            #6
            Originally posted by NorBro View Post
            Everything from RED, everything from Blackmagic (besides studio cameras), Canon C200 - R5 - R5 C - R3 - C70 - 1DX Mark III - C300 Mark III - C500 Mark II - and Nikon Z9.
            The rest were sued to remove CinemaDNG or ProRes RAW (including Z9 which will likely, eventually remove it).
            If there's anything missing (don't think so), I or someone else will add it.
            Thanks for the info. I appreciate it very much.
            Doug Jensen, Sony camcorder instructor
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              #7
              Originally posted by ahalpert View Post

              why do you ask?
              Hard to explain. I'm working on something that involves still photographers making the transition to shooting video and it would be helpful for me to know which cameras can do internal RAW with no extra recorders and other accessories. In general, I don't think shooting RAW is worth the trouble for most people doing small productions, but if you've already got a camera that can do it internally it is hard to argue against.
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                #8
                If you include the ARRIs in your write-ups, it's worth mentioning the license costs almost $4K (or once did), and only the ALEXAs with the XR module offer ARRIRAW. Kinefinity had the same business model in their older cameras (pay for features like ARRI).

                RED infamously flipped this business approach and instead charged for additional parts/hardware.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NorBro View Post
                  If you include the ARRIs in your write-ups, it's worth mentioning the license costs almost $4K (or once did), and only the ALEXAs with the XR module offer ARRIRAW. Kinefinity had the same business model in their older cameras (pay for features like ARRI).

                  RED infamously flipped this business approach and instead charged for additional parts/hardware.
                  The license for the Amira is over $3K, still, but records RAW in the stock hardware configuration. The mini LF and Alexa 35 record RAW 'out of the box', no extra license or module required(I know you were referring to the "legacy" models).

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                    #10
                    AMIRA has CFast cards so it better, ha...that's what others at that time were using as well. Blackmagic, Canon, Z CAM (which, by the way, add it to the list, totally forgot about Z CAM and ZRAW) and eventually Komodo.

                    The idea of the module was because the SxS cards likely couldn't handle it.

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                      #11
                      There's also Magic Lantern RAW for those feeling adventurous enough to hack their compatible Canon camera.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Imamacuser View Post
                        There's also Magic Lantern RAW for those feeling adventurous enough to hack their compatible Canon camera.
                        No DSLRs allowed!! :-)
                        Plus it looks like none of the DSLR hacks can do 4K.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NorBro View Post
                          If you include the ARRIs in your write-ups, it's worth mentioning the license costs almost $4K (or once did), and only the ALEXAs with the XR module offer ARRIRAW. Kinefinity had the same business model in their older cameras (pay for features like ARRI).

                          RED infamously flipped this business approach and instead charged for additional parts/hardware.
                          Thanks for the info. I'm mostly interested in mirrorless cameras that can do stills and RAW video internally. Plus any inexpensive cinema cameras that can do RAW internally.
                          Last edited by Doug Jensen; 09-06-2022, 07:00 AM.
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                            #14
                            Yeah, for sure...everything in this thread is pretty much it.

                            IMO, the thing with RAW is that it's more marketing now than ever before.

                            Decades ago, it always had one very specific, special purpose in photography and that was direct, non-destructive access to data, but now everyone creates something in-house that has a high bitrate while providing basic support in a few NLEs and they call it RAW.

                            I don't necessary think that's wrong (especially from a corporate perspective), but the concept of RAW recording isn't as valuable as it once was. I mean some point-and-shoots now offer external RAW recording...it's like what does that even mean anymore?

                            As much as I love REDCODE RAW, I would 100% agree that using a strong codec/format in which you're not even doing that much to it to begin with is enough for most people.

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                              #15
                              Yeah, I agree with all that. For stills I'd never think of shooting anything but RAW. But for video it seems like overkill without much benefit by the time everything is graded and exported.
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