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    #16
    Originally posted by NorBro View Post
    The Sony is 30.3 and the Canon is 25.5.)
    That's FF. I still relate to things best in terms of super35mm.
    The Sony is 18.2mm and the Canon is 15.36mm. So, less than a 3mm difference.

    I agree with Sam that it would be great to have the two cameras in the same room for a shoot out. If someone can get Canon to send me a XF605 for a week I would be happy to put them through their paces to see how they compare.
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      #17
      morgan_moore

      Newer doesn't always mean better. My S1H is more than a year older than my FX6 and still looks better. My FS7 is probably 5 years older than the FX6 and still looks better in all but the lowest light levels.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Doug Jensen View Post

        That's FF. I still relate to things best in terms of super35mm.
        The Sony is 18.2mm and the Canon is 15.36mm. So, less than a 3mm difference.

        I agree with Sam that it would be great to have the two cameras in the same room for a shoot out. If someone can get Canon to send me a XF605 for a week I would be happy to put them through their paces to see how they compare.
        Huh?

        It doesn't matter what you relate them to; those are the numbers from the cameras' brochures from the people who make the cameras.

        If you feel more comfortable doing the math with S35 then you're welcome to do so, but it's the same difference only written in different numbers depending on the comparison to the sensor size.

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          #19
          No kidding. I never said anything to the contrary. I just offered up a different set of numbers that I (and many others who have S35 cameras can relate to better). Never said your numbers were wrong.
          For future reference, I also relate to Fahrenheit better than Celsius and dollars instead of Euros.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Doug Jensen View Post
            morgan_moore

            Newer doesn't always mean better. My S1H is more than a year older than my FX6 and still looks better. My FS7 is probably 5 years older than the FX6 and still looks better in all but the lowest light levels.
            Indeed but canon are on a bit of a roll at the moment. Im not a fan boy but thats how it is this year.

            On age - I think my 2008 ex1 is good. So the op could consider three of them!
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              #21
              .... There is also the TL-U58 1.5x teleconverter available for the Canon if you need the extra reach. I looked at that pretty hard for my Canon XF400 but never did press the button before going down the FX6 route.

              I really liked the all in one package of the XF but found (if you care) that the reception I got with the Camcorder was "Do people still use these old video cameras" and then they would drool over the guy next to me with his BM Pocket ....

              If it is going to be mostly used in the big conference room, how about a PTZ for that and a single Camcorder for the 2nd?

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                #22
                Morgan, when you handled the XF605, did you happen to engage the digital zoom? If shooting in HD it can go to 30x which is a lot. But only useful if the transition is smooth from optical to digital. That would be the deciding point for me.

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                  #23
                  I didn’t. I think pro Av on YouTube demo that on the 405 - I’d guess the performance is similar- ie good.
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                    #24
                    I was at a different building when I guessed a max focal length of 300mm, but now that I've run a test in the conference room, I'd like to recommend a camcorder with a max focal length of around 500mm. Evan though I own APS-C cameras, I think of focal length in 35mm full frame equivalence.

                    The conference room has Vaddio PTZ cameras, but for larger events, we might need a different camera angle, better quality, and the instantaneous tactile granular control of a camera on a tripod.

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