Black Friday 2021 Deals

[NorBro]

You got a call yesterday about a potential wedding only using the 50mm...they were wondering if you are up for the challenge...

[Joshua_G]

If that were true, the irony is that most people shooting RAW wouldn't use it as they are likely diving into their own deep color grade.

It's used to match many non-RAW cameras.

Well, on a review it turns out my memory served me well.
On this thread:
https://www.dvxuser.com/forum/post-p...3944-cinematch
Reply #5 by John Parker from FilmConvert says:

CineMatch initially supports only Log and RAW profiles on the cameras in our library, as we need to ensure the matching engine has enough data to create an adequate match, so any camera that is capable of shooting in a Log profile will eventually be supported.

So, does CineMatch work also on non-LOG and non-RAW files?

[ahalpert]

You got a call yesterday about a potential wedding only using the 50mm...they were wondering if you are up for the challenge...

I've done weddings that were 50% shot with 50mm. Now with 2 gimbals and cameras, I find myself gravitating more towards something like 50/70-180 or 24/85 coverage, (the latter of which is pretty common 2-lens approach amongst wedding photographers). or 35/85, but my 35 1.4 is a samyang that I'm a little ambivalent about. it would be cool to own a GM f/1.2 35 and 85 if they end up producing them...

[NorBro]

Well, on a review it turns out my memory served me well.
On this thread:
https://www.dvxuser.com/forum/post-p...3944-cinematch
Reply #5 by John Parker from FilmConvert says:


So, does CineMatch work also on non-LOG and non-RAW files?

He's just saying that the software needs a logarithmic curve (doesn't need to be RAW) or RAW files (always has log option) to be able to use it which makes sense because the software needs as much information, latitude as possible to match cameras.

It is useless with baked-in color e.g. a "Standard" picture profile from a Canon or Sony...if that's what you're asking but not sure as that's a given.

Most log cameras aren't RAW cameras and most cameras don't shoot RAW (although many do externally now and eventually many more will internally once certain patents expire).

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So, in short, you do need log but you don't need RAW.

It would be a terrible business decision to have it only work with RAW because seriously barely anyone would use it (as mentioned and IMO) when NLEs like Resolve-FCP-Premiere having real RAW controls rather than "RAW-like" controls as they describe it on their site.

[ahalpert]

re: Cinematch, I believe the primary purpose is to shoot multiple cameras in LOG and then get them to a matching starting place before beginning your grade. which is in itself hugely useful. I think there are too many variables involved in trying to program it to match different cameras' SOOC looks. maybe standards like s-cinetone could be incorporated, who knows

[Joshua_G]

He's just saying that the software needs a logarithmic curve (doesn't need to be RAW) or RAW files (always has log option) to be able to use it which makes sense because the software needs as much information, latitude as possible to match cameras.

It is useless with baked-in color e.g. a "Standard" picture profile from a Canon or Sony...if that's what you're asking but not sure as that's a given.

Most log cameras aren't RAW cameras and most cameras don't shoot RAW (although many do externally now and eventually many more will internally once certain patents expire).

___

So, in short, you do need log but you don't need RAW.

It would be a terrible business decision to have it only work with RAW because seriously barely anyone would use it (as mentioned and IMO) when NLEs like Resolve-FCP-Premiere having real RAW controls rather than "RAW-like" controls as they describe it on their site.

Thanks, going to purchase the DaVinci Resolve plugin.

[Liam Hall]

$198 for a WD 12TB HDD at B&H deal zone today. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...esktop_hd.html

I spotted this deal a few days ago and bought two along with 2 Sandisk 2TB SSDs which were heavily discounted. Hard drives and electric tooth brushes are about all I buy on Black Friday.

Fine examples of things that dont hold thier own in the market. Sorry the Prolicght is about 10x the cost of godox and 10% better (puts head down for response)

Its a bit more than 10% better LOL. Chalk meet cheese.

[ahalpert]

I spotted this deal a few days ago and bought two along with 2 Sandisk 2TB SSDs which were heavily discounted.

Are the Sandisks compatible with Thunderbolt 3?

[NorBro]

If they are regular SATA SSDs, yes...and it's the only way anyone should edit if using non-enclosed drives.

In 2014, I was doing 128GB SSD SATA to USB2 for over $1,000. [Facepalm]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...rd_c_sata.html

[morgan_moore]

"better" is hard to quantify. if something makes all of your footage better, is it only 10% better or 100% better? Or maybe it pushes you over a threshold from misery to bliss or unusable to usable.

Absolutely. Better is an invisible.

If those lights were the same price as godox Id have them. If they were 25% more Id have them, 30|%? 40%? 500% - At some point I would not have them.

Clearly someone feels that the may shift with a 30% price reduction.. so they were probably initially 30% too much?

I think they do some great stuff.. that is hard to cover on the rental/additional day rate and therefore dont sit in many worlds.

[Liam Hall]

Are the Sandisks compatible with Thunderbolt 3?

Yes.With an adapter:_)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Ext...48&sr=8-3&th=1

[ahalpert]

Yes.With an adapter:_)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Ext...48&sr=8-3&th=1

I feel like the answer is basically no. Per a review on Amazon:

"This drive is capable of 2000mb/s, but your computer must support dual-lane USB 3.2 Gen 2X2, essentially using both lanes of USB-C connectors to deliver speeds up to 20Gbps (or 2.5GB/s).

As of this date, no Mac products support the new USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 standard. They only support USB 3.2 gen 2, which is one lane at 10Gbps (or 1.25GB/s).

So if you have an Apple/Mac machine, this will not work at its fullest speed. Try getting the regular extreme pro that works at 1000mb/s, and save your money. Otherwise, get a TB3 drive, such as a Samsung X5 (if you can afford it and find one available)."

[NorBro]

You asked about compatibility with TB3, not full support. (And the 2021 Macs should see 2x2.)

[ahalpert]

Read my mind, not my words. the key thing is that I won't be achieving the advertised peak performance.

but here's what I really wanted to know, thanks to tomshardware. Neither sandisk extreme v2 or extreme pro experiences the insane drop-off in speed when its cache fills up like my crucial x6's do. The extreme pro even stays above the maximum transfer speed I can get with my interface whilst the extreme dips a bit below 1GBps.

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[morgan_moore]

Its a bit more than 10% better LOL. Chalk meet cheese.

Clearly the market says no. Or one would not be 33% off.

Absolutely they are better.. but its like cars that can do 70 or 170 .. it doesnt really matter when you only want to go 70.

I dont make purple disco shots.. I shoot interviews and need 5500 99% of the time. So the excellence is purple is somewhat irrelevant