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    This was Hell on the Codec

    GH13 720p 50fps Lumix 45 - 200mm handheld.

    Last edited by rambooc1; 02-14-2011, 05:24 AM.
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    #2
    What software did you use to edit ?? Looks like some Magic Bullet Looks?? I also like the Vignetting.
    Very well done. Nice timing and very good use of effect.

    Can you tell us a little more about which hack settings/bit-rate you used??

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      #3
      Just lpowell's reliable patch, this was part of a job so had to be low risk.

      Sony Vegas Pro, Magic Bullets Preset was one of Stu Maschwitz's Rebel Epic series called "The Teaches", shutter was 1/250.

      The last 2 clips were Stu Maschwitz's 50/50 preset.

      The paddler was Caine Eckstein, current and 3 time Coolangatta Gold Ironman champ.

      I thought the GH1 handled this difficult shoot quite well. Thanks for you feedback.
      Last edited by rambooc1; 02-14-2011, 03:48 PM.
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        #4
        It handled it extremely well, and I'm stunned at how well the footage held up to the MB grading.
        I can't get MB to work on Vegas Pro 9e. I can get it to work in Avid Media Composer 5, but that's just a drag to work with, since I'm so used to Vegas.

        So basically that's Lpowell's high reliability patch, shot in MJPEG??? Was it 4:2:0, or 4:2:2???

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          #5
          No, was AVCHD at 720p 50fps. I transcode to Canopus HQX before editing which is 422.
          Also the cam was in Smooth mode 0 0 0 -2

          I'm still on Vegas Pro 9c and have no issues and need to upgrade. A recent video card upgrade to 1Gb made MB much, much quicker and reliable.

          There's some jaggies and mosquito bug artifacts around the high motion area (paddle) of the vimeo version, butt original is clean.

          This Canopus white paper might explain a few things about the HQX codec. http://www.canopus.com.cn/pdf/cc_hqc...paper70b72.pdf

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          Last edited by rambooc1; 02-14-2011, 08:34 PM.
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            #6
            Originally posted by rambooc1 View Post
            No, was AVCHD at 720p 50fps. I transcode to Canopus HQX before editing which is 422.
            Also the cam was in Smooth mode 0 0 0 -2

            I'm still on Vegas Pro 9c and have no issues and need to upgrade. A recent video card upgrade to 1Gb made MB much, much quicker and reliable.

            There's some jaggies and mosquito bug artifacts around the high motion area (paddle) of the vimeo version, butt original is clean.

            This Canopus white paper might explain a few things about the HQX codec. http://www.canopus.com.cn/pdf/cc_hqc...paper70b72.pdf

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            Is Canopus HQX separate from the Edius suite?
            I read the white paper, and it looks great. But, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how they get the chroma channels from the 4:2:0 video....???
            I never noticed the artifacts in your video. But, I wasn't really pixel peeping it, as I like the content and the theme. Therefore, any artifacts were dismissed, as the video itself was just great the way you graded it and put it together. Content is King!!!

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              #7
              Originally posted by havasuphoto View Post
              Is Canopus HQX separate from the Edius suite?
              I read the white paper, and it looks great. But, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how they get the chroma channels from the 4:2:0 video....???
              I never noticed the artifacts in your video. But, I wasn't really pixel peeping it, as I like the content and the theme. Therefore, any artifacts were dismissed, as the video itself was just great the way you graded it and put it together. Content is King!!!
              That's how i shoot to get content by getting in close to the action and getting wet. In my game it is every thing. This was shot from a 25ft runnerbout, but my normal platform is back of a jetski. Perfection in IQ is not my aim, just a watchable quality. I've sold footage like this to Broadcast for the content, the engineers screw up their noses when they hear it's AVCHD, but the producer wants it..haha. They even take GoPro footage.

              I don't know how it get's from 420 to 422 either other than conversion.

              Yes HQ is from Edius6 and Procoder too i think, but not 100% sure on Procoder. There are trial versions on Grass-valley website. I use Edius6 for some things, Vegas for others.
              Last edited by rambooc1; 07-26-2011, 07:51 PM.
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                #8
                Originally posted by rambooc1 View Post
                That's how i shootto get content by getting in close to the action and getting wet. In my game it is every thing. This was shot from a 25ft runnerbout, but my normal platform is back of a jetski. Perfection in IQ is not my aim, just a watchable quality. I've sold footage like this to Broadcast for the content, the engineers screw up their noses when they hear it's AVCHD, but the producer wants it..haha. They even take GoPro footage.

                I don't know how it get's from 420 to 422 either other than conversion.

                Yes HQ is from Edius6 and Procoder too i think, but not 100% sure on Procoder. There are trial versions on Grass-valley website. I use Edius6 for some things, Vegas for others.
                Thanks, I'll look into it.
                I shoot primarily jet ski and boat racing ;)
                I've had plenty of "my" Go Pro HD footage aired on TV. Now they have a screen you can attach to line up the shot. But, as you know, before you had to visualize everything when you mounted it, and prey you got the shot. I'm still not buying the screen. I've gotten used to going without.

                And, like you, it's the content that is more important. It's very difficult to shoot water sports, as water and camera's don't mix. And, shooting from a boat, for me, usually isn't a very good option. I've tried shooting from the back of a PWC(jet ski), but the results are kinda tough. Really need a gyro-stabilizer!!

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                  #9
                  Shooting from a Jetski is what i do for a living so i've had to practice and develop equipment to do the job. Gyros (2 Kenyon's on opposite axis) i've tried without success as you really can't move the camera, relying more on the driver to do the maneuvering, i find it too restricting and heavy to hold for 1-2hrs. I run the cameras on auto everything, but lock exposure whenever i can.

                  Hahah,, saltwater and cameras ..... defiantly do not like each other, had my losses.

                  Octocopters with remote control and tracking is the future. A chopper locks onto an emitting device on board a boat/ski etc and tracks it 10ft high and 10ft behind, then moves on to the next one. We're getting there.

                  That video above was my first attempt at using the GH1 for this type of footage and i'm very happy with it. A simple half press refocuses, the exposure is prelocked and the OIS is turned on and offers a mild stabilizing effect without jumping in pans.
                  Last edited by rambooc1; 02-15-2011, 07:06 PM.
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