How interested are you in a GH6 anymore?

[stoneinapond]

Unfortunately not any more. Camera went back today, sadly, because it is a beautifully built beast with every bell and whistle you could want on a hybrid. Except in my case the weight. Tried to get used to it but wasn't going to happen with my usage.

Happily, after spending 10 days exploring the camera I notice that many of the great features on the GH6 were already available on the GH5 mkII. The red record box, improved menu system and excellent LCD, pixel/pixel mode, to name just a few. For my uses the only thing missing is the high ISO performance and 4K120p. Although the latter has already shown its overuse with countless 1, 2, 3 minute YouTube test featuring a girlfriend dreamily walking and smiling at the camera. Won't miss that. And of course no 4 channel audio recording or internal ProRes but I have no need for those either.

So I wait for a while longer, and if credible rumors concerning an S5 with much improved EVF do not surface soon, a mkII it is. And I get to save $700 at today's prices.

[filmguy123]

Im just noting that for those like me who would like to upgrade the gh4 .. a 5 5s or 5ii might be becoming a bargain.

i have a listing in the used section, PM me for a bargain. Willing to break up the bundle. Lots of batteries, cages, etc.

[stoneinapond]

Is that expensive or cheap? I don't know the pounds to dollar conversion. Beyond that I'm getting fatigued trying to remember the little differences between the GH5, GH5s, GH5ii and GH6 and then applying a monetary value between them. I think these camera companies confuse the consumer by trying to segment features into a number of models.

Google is your friend in this case. Five seconds and you have your answer to any currency conversion.

So we can now add a confusion conspiracy to Panasonic’s laziness.

As to my II pricing it’s an inevitable response to the GH6 announcement. And although I don’t as yet have the new item in hand, it is an astronomical improvement over the GH4. But I did love that camera. For those that don’t want to spend the money and still want Panasonic’s m43 offerings, theUK price for the mark II is a bargain

[morgan_moore]

the uk ffer is 1325 usd.

2197 vs 1497. 0.7 of the price

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora...RoCNgwQAvD_BwE

Im just noting that for those like me who would like to upgrade the gh4 .. a 5 5s or 5ii might be becoming a bargain.

im not really seeing what the gh6 offers me beyone a gh4 upgrade. its not an r6 or c200 replacement.

[Zim]

Is that expensive or cheap? I don't know the pounds to dollar conversion. Beyond that I'm getting fatigued trying to remember the little differences between the GH5, GH5s, GH5ii and GH6 and then applying a monetary value between them. I think these camera companies confuse the consumer by trying to segment features into a number of models.

B&H has them on sale for $1497 with a free bag.

[Peter C.]

I think it’s half of the gh6 .. so cheap?

I dunno .. to stop my door open I can use an af free brick.. so expensive?

lol cheap camera but an expensive door stop.

[morgan_moore]

I think it’s half of the gh6 .. so cheap?

I dunno .. to stop my door open I can use an af free brick.. so expensive?

[Peter C.]

local dealer has gh5ii at £1000 which is interesting?

Is that expensive or cheap? I don't know the pounds to dollar conversion. Beyond that I'm getting fatigued trying to remember the little differences between the GH5, GH5s, GH5ii and GH6 and then applying a monetary value between them. I think these camera companies confuse the consumer by trying to segment features into a number of models.

[morgan_moore]

local dealer has gh5ii at £1000 which is interesting?

[Zim]

You could get around $250 depending on it's condition. You can search ebay for completed items
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...&LH_Complete=1

That sound better. even though sometimes it is easier to just trade in. Thanks

[Peter C.]

You could get around $250 depending on it's condition. You can search ebay for completed items
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...&LH_Complete=1

[Zim]

I'm going to sell a few things to buy the GH6. I was offered $110 for my DVX100b. I guess that isn't to bad. Any ideas on what they are worth. It is in good condition. I need to check the hours, but not to bad.

[filmguy123]

I don't think the ultra wide Laowa glass (12-15) looks as good as ultra wide FF glass. But it is much easier to work with on the field, especially if it's something not used that often.

My Milvus 15mm on Full Frame produces extremely high quality wide angle (and lenses like the 16-35 look real nice too) that the Laowa 7.5 just can't match that. But then, these FF ultrawides are very large and heavy and also vignette easily.

I have a Xume adapter setup where everything is stepped up to 77mm or 82mm, and then I have my filters that I can snap on/off. Can't do that on the ultrawides, by the time you add the xume ring and then snap that on, you get vignette. So my Milvus lens gets a dedicated 95mm VND filter which cost a pretty penny and has to be manually threaded on and off... and with full frame light sensitivity, itdoesn't even stop down enough to always get me what I want. So if I am traveling overseas, bringing these eats up valuable space/weight and can be a slower workflow.

If I'm shooting locally, or something where I'll use a lot of wide, no competition. Give me a good FF ultrawide all day. But for travel shoot, I might not use 12-15mm wide at all (20mm wide on the 10-25 Lumix is plenty 99% of the time). But it's good to have, because maybe I'm at a location where that extra wide would really convey what I want - an establishing shot to a Mosque or something that really shows the scale and gives a certain feeling of scale when you see it. Having one of these in the bag is "free" and I can use with a snap on VND filter and it's just super easy. There is zero consideration of "hmm... should I pack the rarely used ultrawide lens with me?" It doesn't look as good but for the occasional establishing shot it really doesn't matter.

That's one of the cool things about having the M43 kit. I do have a hard time picturing myself only owning a GH6. But when I can have my cake and eat it too, nothing beats having this camera as an option where I don't have to feel I'm giving the client a compromised image quality. If I get a call saying can you go up to Alaska solo next weekend to capture XYZ in this remote area, I can bring a very small bag that will give me zero problems on float planes and pack a Laowa 7.5, Lumix 10-25, Nocitron 42.5, Leica 50-200, Panny XLR adapter, VND on step up rings, etc. all into one single bag. Maybe a cheap little MeFoto tripod that can be carried on, and take the Mavic as well. And walk back with 13 stops DR, good lowlight, every focal length in there to capture whatever might come my way and with a little skill the results look like they were shot by a 3 person team over the course of a week. I've done this sort of thing on larger kits and the hassle of a big carry on suitcase (or two), an overweight carry on bag and backpack to accompany really creates hassle and ups the budget for the client (where maybe I have to rent the entire float plane for myself vs just fly with others), or pay baggage fees every stop of the way, or argue with the airline to bring my 20lbs overweight carry on bag on. Etc.

[Thomas Smet]

Yeah my laowa 12mm in FF is one of my favorite lenses, though I don't use it much now because it's manual focus.

That is a pretty serious set of cine glass for MFT, although it looks like there's no 25mm yet?

The lack of 25mm really is a bummer. I'm interested to see how well the 17mm f1.9 does wide open. Thats 35mm in FF terms and if I went the Rokinon route those really only look great at f4 or f5.6. If the 17mm can look really good wide open I would really be losing out on anything besides being able to also use it on the R6. 17mm is about as wide as I like to go under normal circumstances. Would prefer a 25mm as well as my main lens but 17mm would work.

[Thomas Smet]

m43 has so many cool cine and anamorphic options right now. Thats why I do consider the GH6 a serious cinema camera option. Considering a lot of cinema productions do use lights and a crew to help with focus and support it all really makes sense. Its when you get into the other fields of video where FF starts to make more sense. In particular FF with phase detect AF.

I'm really considering just sticking to cine with the GH6 if I get one. There is also something nice about a lens that cannot use any in body lens corrections. The R6 does that a lot and pretty much as aggressive as the GH4 and GH5 did. RF lenses are great for regular video production but when it comes to VFX work I much prefer full manual lenses that have zero corrections done in camera. Its those corrections that tend to butcher edges and add ringing or other corrections I would rather keep. My set of Canon FDs work exceptionally on the R6. Nice to finally use them as FF.

I was going to get FF EF cine lenses like Rokinon to use on either the R6, P4k or GH6 but those are no longer great lenses and maybe these Laowa options would be a better choice. The rokinons really need to be stopped down to f4 to be really good.