I would think Sony would reserve any 8K MFT for their friends at Panasonic.
Unless Panasonic is done with MFT cameras.
Unless Panasonic is done with MFT cameras.
-
-
It made sense for Sony to keep Olympus and Panasonic making MFT and out of the full frame market. The problem is that Canon began selling their full frame cameras for less than the MFT Alliance was selling theirs with much smaller sensors. I happen to think that MFT makes for a perfect entry level lineup but that would only make sense if the same manufacturer had MFT + APS-C / FF to offer. Otherwise, margins get too thin in the sub-$1,000 sector because there aren't enough units moved to cover the overhead. But the alternatives is five companies (Canon, Sony, Nikon, Sigma, Pentax) jostling each other in the full frame niche. And even with Pentax virtually dropping out and Sigma relegated to the cripple lead, it still leaves three major entrants in the falling market. And so it'd make sense again to keep Panasonic and Olympus making MFT, with Nikon and Sony APS-C (in addition to FF). Except, as I had noted before, while they can control the supply, they can't control the demand and someone always ends up with the short end of the stick.
PS. Olympus/OMD says they won't make full frame. Which means that they might make the medium format. Which they made before. On film.Comment
-
-
It looks like the Fuji XT-3/4 sensor with a different CFA.Comment
-
And here it is - GH-5 MKII.
Meet the new boss. Almost identical to the old boss. Part II.Comment
-
https://www.43rumors.com/ft5-here-ar...c-gh5-mark-ii/Originally posted by DLD View Post
Yeah, not clear what the upgrade is. Which is partly a testament to how good it already was. I still use my GH5, just ideally not on gimbal or for high-contrast or low-light scenes. But definitely for macro and long-distance work and additional anglesComment
-
It could be an interim model, as they wait for the R3, A7RV and Z8/Z9 to set the market first. In the automotive industry, this is called a mid-cycle refresh, something to salvage the lagging sales numbers. But then again, it's not a car market and five years is a late-cycle refresh in electronics. The high end cameras, such all iterations of Alexa, do provide updated electronic blocks. Maybe this will do that and add a new codec on top of that.
Or maybe they're waiting for a new Sony sensor to go into production before diving into GH-6 and this will have the GH-6 guts, more or less, thus saving on the component costs.
Nonetheless, it's a curious decision.Comment
-
Maybe this will be Panasonic’s move into phase-detection autofocus.
If not, it will flop with those specs and that price in 2021. Moreover, it would send a clear warning about Panasonic’s intentions for Micro Four Thirds, after a string of ambiguous signals. What is needed for a serious GH5 successor is 4K 120p or 8K of some description; in other words, a new sensor.
I think it would be a great shame if the full-frame fad kills Micro Four Thirds, i.e. meaningful choice in the market.
I guess this camera will at least record 4K 60p 10-bit 4:2:2 internally. Maybe it will output Raw or do something genuinely impressive/useful to make up for the re-used hardware? Panasonic could use the same processing pipeline in its other cameras, so development costs wouldn’t have to be paid for by GH5 Mark II sales alone.Comment
-
-
Well, it has identical dimensions to the GH5 but is 2 g heavier. How much does each phase-detection autofocus pixel weigh? We need a few hundred of them.Comment
-
FWIW, Olympus EM1 MKII and MKIII have 242 total AF points, with 121 each in phase and contrast detect. GH-5 has the same sensor but with 225 (only contrast detect) points. The total number of the AF points is likely to be the sensor limitation but the phase detect is technically available. Off reviews, the top Olympus models do fairly well on static subjects in stills, not so well on moving subjects in anything.Comment
-
Silly update, if true...but since 2021 falls on a major year of recycling camera models with barely any internal improvements and some external, it makes a lot of sense to add one more to the list.
Maybe the GH5 is physically different somehow.
We'll see...
S1 --> S5
a7SIII --> FX3
Pocket 6K --> Pocket 6K Pro
fp --> fp L
R5 --> R# (pending)
GH5 --> GH5 II (pending)Comment
-
A7III --> A7c. (technically speaking, a 2020 update)Comment
-
And Z6 II and Z7 II.Comment
-
I wouldn't read too much into those crude specs. They are a leak and only a small fraction of the specs of a camera. There is a lot more we don't know than what we know assuming this is even an accurate rumor.
Remember the GH4 was more or less a similar sensor to the GH3 and yet opened up a whole new world with 4k video. Sometimes processing makes all the difference. Also features like focus peaking have nothing to do with the sensor itself so there could be a ton of software advancements on a mk2 camera. While Panasonic may get their sensor from Sony or somewhere else they do a lot of their own processing which is industry leading.
A mk2 could potentially have:
1. 4k 60p 10bit because we know the sensor can do it because it works for external recording. Its the processing that was limited.
2. Color science which we know Has been improved on the GH5S and the S series cameras. Sensor might play into this but Panasonic could tweak how its mapped to better fit with their newer cameras.
3. Some of the other annoying processing things like 10bit for ETC modes or better processing of slow motion material. Right now the GH5 has to use progressively worse processing modes for slow motion the more frames sho with. Maybe that processing can be greatly improved and use the same natural scaling for slow motion as it does for normal shooting modes. Shooting a nice clean 180fps that looks as good as 24p would be a rather significant upgrade over the GH5 for those that love slow motion.
4. Since Panasonic makes their own encoder they could add in a 4:4:4 recording mode to try to compete in the market and provide a somewhat decent alternative to Braw. Being able to get 4:4:4 log internally would be a rather awesome selling point even if it is h264 or h265 based.
5. Full V-log or at least fix V-log L. Sony and others have different levels of log to work with different ranges of DR. Panasonic can as well and it might breathe some new life into log. I realize full V-log may not be possible on a 12 stop sensor and thats why Panasonic should make a special V-log that works better with the GH sensors. The vast majority of GH users do not need to match luts with a Varicam.
6. New scopes and tools to help expose shots for HLG and log like false color.
7. Better noise reduction thanks to better processing. Might help push the same sensor another stop.
8. raw to external. Not entirely sure if thats a good idea. Raw pretty much requires either full sensor or a crop for 4k video. How many GH5 users would want 5.2k raw video as an only option? plus that really could have been a firmware update much like it is on the S series cameras. That could potentially upset a lot of loyal GH users. Cropped 4k might be somewhat useful. Especially if using a focal reducer that could get back closer to a m43 crop factor.
9. Dare I say it but for heavens sake somebody please add ProRes Raw and/or Braw internally to a camera. SD cards can be fast enough for some flavors of Braw. At the very least add support to record to a USBC drive like BMD does. Thats a much more attractive options vs forced to use an external recorder/monitor for raw. All these cameras adding external raw has been a bit of a head scratcher for me. I moved to a P4k and honestly its going to take a lot more than just adding external raw to bring me back. I can even record some levels of Braw to SD cards. No external solution can compete with the convenience of that.Comment
Comment