C100 / EOS R Video Lenses?

[puredrifting]

The monitor placement on the c100 is not good for cradle shooting as you can't place it against your body. I guess a form factor like the fs7 would be ideal. But yes your back seizes up pretty quickly handheld with the c100...

That's one thing that was a huge step up when I went from the C100 to the C200, the monitor placement on the 200 is perfect for cradled shooting.
And the touch screen is not a bad monitor, I can use it in nuclear daylight with the Hoodman H400 on it. Not super bright but bright enough to get the job done when you turn the Luminance (backlight) up to +2

[scorsesefan]

The monitor placement on the c100 is not good for cradle shooting as you can't place it against your body. I guess a form factor like the fs7 would be ideal. But yes your back seizes up pretty quickly handheld with the c100...

[puredrifting]

Exactly. That's why I love the C series. Ergonomically, they are just nearly perfect...

I guess if you like shooting cradled? I do for certain things, only with an IS lens though, those micro jitters still kill me everytime I mount the EF 85mm f/1.8. Good for a slow moving or stationary subject but not good for much else and it fatigues you if you try to shoot stand up interviews that way.
I shot a few stand ups on our documentary last year cradled and it was not a good thing, I went back to tripod for stand up interviews. Our ten minute interviews sometimes turned into 45 minute interviews and it was not good as far as steadiness after a while as muscles cramp up. Shoulder mounted,
I can handle a 45 minute interview.

[scorsesefan]

Exactly. That's why I love the C series. Ergonomically, they are just nearly perfect...

[puredrifting]

I plan to use the BMPCC 4K as a 2nd cam to my c100. But as Puredrifting mentioned these "dslr" type cams are really not ideal for handheld. I plan to use mine on sticks, as an interview camera (4K giving me framing options) and for some b-roll (mostly landscapes where the added detail should shine). My c100 would be for verite (which is more than half of what I do). I just can't see the bmpcc 4k in handheld situations without rigging it out which negates it's low price...

Plus Frankenrigs SUCK! I started off shooting my two documentaries about a year and a half ago and used the C100, C300, RED Dragon and my C200, all Franken rigged with Zacuto VCT Pro, handles, grip relocaters, EVFs, V-Mounts and I despise Franken rigs. Stupid cables hanging off of everything, waiting to be snagged, trying to achieve neutral balance point with every lens change, they're awful. I ended up ditching all of the Franken rig crap and shoot the C200 or 300 MKII cradled and if I really need to move a lot or follow people, the X-T3 on a gimbal is such a better tool. I agree, rigging out small mirrorless cameras to be shoulder rigged cameras with cages and monitors, etc. is negating the whole reason to use a small, mirrorless camera.

[scorsesefan]

I looked at the BMPCC today and came away with the thought that it is really a great value for the money. I have not compared it to the XT3 though to be fair the BMPCC is really a video camera and that would weigh more in my consideration as a B camera than say the XT3, even though I do love Fuji stills cameras.
The difference in sensor sizes between the C series Canon cams and the BMPCC might be a bit of an issue matching wise since the BMPCC is micro 4/3 and and Canon is super 35. My intuition is that since the BMPCC offers a few flavors of pro res, one could probably swing the color matching without jumping through too many hoops.

I plan to use the BMPCC 4K as a 2nd cam to my c100. But as Puredrifting mentioned these "dslr" type cams are really not ideal for handheld. I plan to use mine on sticks, as an interview camera (4K giving me framing options) and for some b-roll (mostly landscapes where the added detail should shine). My c100 would be for verite (which is more than half of what I do). I just can't see the bmpcc 4k in handheld situations without rigging it out which negates it's low price...

[puredrifting]

Are you shooting handheld with the XT3? The ergos did not impress me, but I am used to a DSLR shape in my hands.

-gl

No, I bought it specifically as my slider/gimbal camera. If I am going to shoot handheld, which I still do quite a bit, the extra weight and mass of the C200 make it much better for that. The X-T3 is so small and light, it doesn't work very well as a handheld camera, no mass and weight so it's going to show a lot of micro jitter.
I am shooting a series of interviews today at an auto testing facility and will use the C200 as the A camera and the X-T3 on my Rhino EVO slider with the Rhino ARC to pan as the camera slides for a B-angle. I am over the second angle moving shot but the client specifically requested it so they aren't over it ;-)

[George Loch]

No, I bought the X-T3 and am loving it. Still love my C200 but smaller, cheaper, lighter and more fun to shoot with the X-T3 these days. I am doing a shoot today, C200 will be on tripod in a pre-lit interview shooting RAW but the X-T3 will be on gimbal shooting b-roll to F-Log at 400Mbps 10-bit. It's a great camera, every Canon owners should have one! ;-)

Are you shooting handheld with the XT3? The ergos did not impress me, but I am used to a DSLR shape in my hands.

-gl

[Mark Smith]

I looked at the BMPCC today and came away with the thought that it is really a great value for the money. I have not compared it to the XT3 though to be fair the BMPCC is really a video camera and that would weigh more in my consideration as a B camera than say the XT3, even though I do love Fuji stills cameras.
The difference in sensor sizes between the C series Canon cams and the BMPCC might be a bit of an issue matching wise since the BMPCC is micro 4/3 and and Canon is super 35. My intuition is that since the BMPCC offers a few flavors of pro res, one could probably swing the color matching without jumping through too many hoops.

[scorsesefan]

Cool.

[puredrifting]

I was looking at the xt-3 and the bmpcc 4k as a 2nd cam to my c100. Pre-ordered the pocket. How does the X-T3 match color-wise to your c200?

I've planned on doing some methodical tests shooting charts and some nice skin tones with both on my to do list but have been too busy with work projects to spend the time needed. Will post my findings when I can find the spare time.

Going to shoot F-Log on the Fuji and Cinema RAW on the C200

[scorsesefan]

I was looking at the xt-3 and the bmpcc 4k as a 2nd cam to my c100. Pre-ordered the pocket. How does the X-T3 match color-wise to your c200?

[puredrifting]

Na.
I think you're a bit of a gear head.
And you have some new gear.
Enjoy!

I write reviews and articles for HD Video Pro and a few other outlets so playing with new gear comes with the territory. But unlike loaner gear, I bought the X-T3 full price with my own money. Ever since I bought my first gimbal, I had the 80D as my back up/B/gimbal camera and when I stepped up to my C200 and shooting 4K, I knew I would eventually need a capable 4K small camera for gimbal and B camera. I almost bought the GH5 or GH5s but used a friends X-T2 and was intrigued. When the X-T3 came out, that was it.

The Fringer adapter works well, although my first copy was spotty on if it would always work so I exchanged it. The new one came but I have been too busy shooting to really test it methodically, which I plan on doing this week. The Fringer does allow for full functionality with Canon lenses on the Fuji cameras so yes, face and eye tracking, etc. Most of the Canon lenses dwarf the Fuji body but seem to work fine.

[cpreston]

Hello, everyone!

I mostly do wedding videography, with some side photography. But I predominantly shoot video.


So, I have two Canon 24-105mm lenses that I love. They shoot great for video and photo. But I am looking to expand and get other lenses for video. I also have a Sigma 24mm ART lense that shoots great video, and also a Sigma 70-200mm lense.

I am thinking I need a wider Canon lense for video and maybe a couple prime lenses?

Some direction on this would be great. I have a couple of lenses in mind, but want to make sure I get the right ones. Yes, I know this all depends on the subject you are shooting.

Thanks, all!

I think the 18-35 f/1.8 is a requirement for weddings. It is the only zoom that will give you useable results once the lights go down at the wedding. The 50-100 f/1.8 is also nice, but you will wish it had IS and didn't breathe as much. if you already have Sigma, just stick with Sigma. Use the EOS-R in crop mode.

[DNN]

I'd also be interested to hear how the XT-3 works with Canon glass since I heard that it has decent face recognition autofocus. Would be great to use as a b-cam that I can carry in a small bag and just lock off. On the other hand, it seems like decent X-mount lenses are pretty affordable.