iPhone 13 Pro

[ahalpert]

And machines will make choices on their own for certain content that is uploaded every day and doesn't need to be supervised in a very fast-paced world.

No creativity will exist here because it will just be content - content - content and any number of editing calculations will work 365 days a year, 7 days a week.

That is how it will work.

Sure but there's already formulaic **** like this being constantly pumped out by humans. And the creative decisions were made when the template for the content was crafted by some producer. So, still not a huge difference in how creative decisions are made. and someone will have to review it intermittently or have some feedback mechanism to make sure that everything is working out. And over time, the human will probably adjust the template based on changing fashion/style

[NorBro]

Creativity would have to be defined here.

I think the above is more a set of instructions which is a natural process part of life.

Humans weren't born knowing how to make these "templates" and were instructed to be creative in certain formats while working 10-20-30 years to obtain those roles. They have a lot of "deep learning" of their own.

Since humans teach humans, what's the problem with robots being taught? And then teaching other robots? (Presumably in seconds as the data is passed around and imported by others.)

This creativity you speak of is overrated. AI will make 100 edits in seconds and the human can pick one.

If this is some internal struggle you're having and really require some emotional reassurance on who might get the last word in, human or robot - OKAY, the human might get the last word in and your job's safe for now. lol

[Thomas Smet]

I'm starting to wonder if NorBro is really a machine. Skynet has arrived and will take over the world via video cameras.

[NorBro]

Humanity had their chance.































lol.

[ahalpert]

This creativity you speak of is overrated. AI will make 100 edits in seconds and the human can pick one.

That IS the creative decision-making. The human can curate the input. Just like I deliver optional edits to my client and they tell me which direction they want to pursue. The computer is replacing me, the editor, the technician. It is not replacing the producer. But at first, it will probably just be assisting the editor (much like it does now) before they pass that on to the producer

[NorBro]

I view it as a task that consists of the organization of frames.

It's moot as you're too invested and I'm too detached.

Won't get anywhere with this.

[ahalpert]

I mean, what you're describing is basically how google serves me up montages/slideshows of my family photos. Then it asks me if I want to keep what it produced. The computer does the heavy lifting and I get the final say, the part where I decide if I like it or not.

If the computer were to make the creative decisions, it would decide on a final version and then post it to facebook and send links to my family without consulting me. Which could happen, but probably isn't even desirable

[NorBro]

That's personal stuff involving the heart and not really the purpose of the tech.

We have our automated iPhone/etc. slideshows and you can override the decisions made or include photos that were missed or change the order but no one cares about that besides you and your family.

The bigger picture here is the creation of different data and lead conversion for companies.

Besides being tracked and having content provided to us based on that data, companies make visual products based on geodata, income, culture, and current events.

AI could be tapped into a universal network of information and would consistently be pumping out these visual products and many, many variations of them. It would know how many people clicked on a YouTube ad or other ad and create more ads like that in seconds.

It would try these ads in other markets and see how potential accounts respond there. Never-ending I/O of data.

The purpose of machines would be to communicate, share, analyze and create data 24/7 for companies to make more money than the world has ever seen before.

If an ad on YouTube is resulting in zero activity, it immediately gets pulled and replaced instead of having to wait for a human to edit something else and replace it manually.

You dig? Are you following me?

Yes, these machines won't make those beautiful heartfelt films that some humans work on for a decade dialing every perfect detail that their own brain has created, or they won't be able to create the world's best banana documentary with a certain human context - but that will not be the purpose of the technology.

[QuickHitRecord]

Skip the camera, bypass the smartphone, and get straight to the "craft"... without leaving your computer:

I don't get this at all, but just watch this take off on Instagram and TikTok -- it feels like it could. I can already see the headlines about a couple of 17 year olds who sell their virtual photo NFTs and make millions.

[NorBro]

That's fun as a video game (and there are many like that with New Pokemon Snap being one of the most recent), but I sure hope it's never comparable to the real life activity.

You have to draw a line at some point, ha.

Being out in the wild, in nature, breathing in the fresh air, having the challenge of capturing the once-in-a-lifetime frame(s) is why we do it.

[DLD]

It's auto-tune for images.

[Thomas Smet]

This is not a replacement for AF. You cannot fix focus in post. The image is made from the wide and ultra wide cameras. The two together create a depth map and in post you can blur which part should be out of focus. It doesn't magically bring something already out of focus into focus. This mainly works because the iPhone cameras have very shallow DOF to begin with. Both cameras will be in focus and then you can you the slider in post to determine where the blur should happen.

"Users can also change focus to any portion of the scene (that was acceptably in focus to begin with when shot), or create focus racks after-the-fact."

You can still get shots out of focus using this method which will never be fixed. Just like I can get out of focus portrait mode stills.

[NorBro]

It's a fingernail sensor size so even if you had full control across the light field it wouldn't matter much besides in the most separated situations.

It's just exciting they are doing this because it will once again force others to be better.

When people are complacent the result is having 8-bit 4K/30p cameras for 8 years.

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Apple doing this pushes Google and Microsoft to be better.

Apple, Google and Microsoft pushes RED to be better.

RED pushes Blackmagic to be better.

The Japanese sit back and watch.

[Tom Roper]

https://youtu.be/ARJ8cAGm6JE

[ahalpert]

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AI could be tapped into a universal network of information and would consistently be pumping out these visual products and many, many variations of them. It would know how many people clicked on a YouTube ad or other ad and create more ads like that in seconds.

It would try these ads in other markets and see how potential accounts respond there. Never-ending I/O of data.

The purpose of machines would be to communicate, share, analyze and create data 24/7 for companies to make more money than the world has ever seen before.

If an ad on YouTube is resulting in zero activity, it immediately gets pulled and replaced instead of having to wait for a human to edit something else and replace it manually.

Ok but now you're talking specifically about microtargeting of advertisements, presumably with different visuals constructed from CGI.

I buy that...

BUT - there's still some number crunching human in a board room deciding on the big picture campaign they want to launch. The broad strokes.

AND - I'm not sure how much of my work specifically gets dislodged by that tech. I'm sure that some will, just not along the lines you're describing because web ads are not currently a big part of my business.

What's more likely to displace me specifically is camera robots and editing software that is easy enough for a producer to command