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    Hello,

    Is it a good idea to go with a HPX500 in 2020/21? Is the picture quality up to the fullHD standards nowadays? I'm interested in if its quality is comparable with the Panasonic HPX-250 (AVC-intra, true HD sensors, etc).

    Thank you!


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    Honestly...no, it's really not up to the standards (but that also might not matter for your work).

    Even the HPX250 - which I owned at one point and loved for what it was at the time - is extremely crummy compared to the quality of the best HD footage that's available nowadays that you can acquire through higher-quality 4K cameras that shoot HD or by mastering in HD from 4K+ resolution footage.


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    Thanks NorBro,

    If the HPX500 gives me *similar* picture quality as the HPX250 it will be enough for me. What do you think? Is the 250 miles ahead of the HPX500? I have a deal where I can buy one for 1200€ with Canon lens included. But if it only gives me "improved SD" I'm not interested.

    Thanks!


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    If the lens is HD, I would take the HPX500 and its larger sensor and more professional body.

    Both will have similar IQ as IMO they are both so dated that there is no visual difference the brain will register.

    It's like comparing 90s camcorders...technically some may have better numbers on paper than others, but everything looks the same because we've come so far.


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    HPX500 - Release date: 2007
    HPX250 - Release date: 2012
    PX270 - Release date: 2014

    Well, there is a substancial difference between HPX500 and HPX250 (5 years!!). The footage from the 250 is quite good even nowadays. All I have seen about the HPX500 on internet seems like SD.


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    I hear you...but sometimes dates don't mean much as we have seen at the highest level of the business.

    In this specific case, there has been very little improvement in consumer/prosumer video camcorders until after 2017-ish when the Japanese started catching them up.

    As far as upload/online quality, the HPX500 was a very professional system at one point, but it was active during a time when online uploading was just really getting going with the world and there was so much user error in post-processing and even camera operation.

    I mean...half of the videos you come across from the camera are playing back in 480p max...

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    With all of that said, this is just one man's opinion.

    A desire to love something or see something with the heart or brain always wins in life, with everything.


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    thank you for your kind and reasoned words


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    Not sure if this is safe for work or what not...but I searched most popular choices on Vimeo for the HPX500 - which is usually an indicator of high-quality (although not always) - and this was one that I thought looked good, again for what it is and its time.

    [Make sure 720p is selected.]



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    Close-up shots still hold up quite well but wide shots not so good. Apart from that, this clip has heavy color correction... Hard to decide!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mitteg View Post
    Hello,

    Is it a good idea to go with a HPX500 in 2020/21? Is the picture quality up to the fullHD standards nowadays? I'm interested in if its quality is comparable with the Panasonic HPX-250 (AVC-intra, true HD sensors, etc).

    Thank you!
    *Disclaimer: I've never used an HPX-500, so I have no idea what the image is like.*


    Depends... Depends on what you're doing, who your clients are, what their expectations/requirements are, what your expectations/requirements are, etc.

    For reference, I do a lot of network TV and I still own and use two 2700 P2 VariCam's. Even thought they are "only" native 720P and released about 12 years ago, they still look great. And I have a friend who just bought a used one from one of their friends a few weeks ago.

    Do I even need to get into the CCD aspect?

    Even though these cameras are "old", it kind of breaks my heart how they are looked down upon, today. I'm honestly hoping to still get many more years out of my 2700's.


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