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    Rumours abound on exactly Apple got the ideas for their new generation of processors.

    Does this processor seem familiar, its the Fujitsu A64FX. The Apple M1 being described as the Lite/sugar-free version of the A64FX, maybe the coming power machines will be more full flavour.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXhlDt2SD8o
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    For anyone curious, not sure how a high end M1 will compare, but on topic of new workstation desktops:

    Testing new build of AMD 5950x and NVIDIA RTX 3090. Opened existing projects in Premiere Pro with h.265 hevc footage from S1H, 10-bit 420 4k non-transcoded straight from camera as LONG-GOP. Hours of footage in a timeline. FLIES THROUGH IT. I can fast forward, and rewind, at high speed, even with 60p files. Random seeks in the timeline are instant. Layering with effects like LUTs, Lumetri, etc. - no problem. Full Quality preview scrubbing silky smooth, everything seems to play at proper FPS. Here and there is a minor stutter when going a little crazy, but it's essentially a blip. This on a large projects as well.

    It's hard to find much online of how the new hardware actually handles in use, and not with 4K h.265 - not even Puget had this. So hopefully it helps anyone (Rob?) when considering a new workstation build. Extremely impressed from my first 20 minutes of playing around.

    I think I may be able to edit just fine without transcoding. Also, these files were on a spinner HDD and not a QNAP/SSD or anything of that sort. The drive doesn't appear to be getting bottlenecked since the file sizes aren't too big, and the CPU/GPU is doing just fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by filmguy123 View Post
    For anyone curious, not sure how a high end M1 will compare, but on topic of new workstation desktops:

    Testing new build of AMD 5950x and NVIDIA RTX 3090. Opened existing projects in Premiere Pro with h.265 hevc footage from S1H, 10-bit 420 4k non-transcoded straight from camera as LONG-GOP. Hours of footage in a timeline. FLIES THROUGH IT. I can fast forward, and rewind, at high speed, even with 60p files. Random seeks in the timeline are instant. Layering with effects like LUTs, Lumetri, etc. - no problem. Full Quality preview scrubbing silky smooth, everything seems to play at proper FPS. Here and there is a minor stutter when going a little crazy, but it's essentially a blip. This on a large projects as well.

    It's hard to find much online of how the new hardware actually handles in use, and not with 4K h.265 - not even Puget had this. So hopefully it helps anyone (Rob?) when considering a new workstation build. Extremely impressed from my first 20 minutes of playing around.

    I think I may be able to edit just fine without transcoding. Also, these files were on a spinner HDD and not a QNAP/SSD or anything of that sort. The drive doesn't appear to be getting bottlenecked since the file sizes aren't too big, and the CPU/GPU is doing just fine.
    Thanks for the update. You must be really happy with your new machine - and there's room to keep growing.

    Currently I can edit c200 CRL files in a 1080p timeline in resolve with pretty smooth playback (not amazing but not an official issue).

    In the future, ideally I'll be able to drag and drop 4k CRL files onto a 4k timeline in resolve with completely smooth playback despite heavy effects like noise reduction etc. It sounds like your build could already handle this?


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    Very happy!

    I am not sure on CRL files or resolve, except that I always hear Resolve performs much better. Based on my experience with 4k 60p 10-bit 420 h.265 files playback in premiere, I would say so.

    I can stack Flicker Free, Filmconvert, Cinematch, and more onto a single clip and still get smooth live playback without dropped frames with that codec! Neatvideo noise reduction still plays a bit choppy as expected, but renders so much quicker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by filmguy123 View Post
    Very happy!

    I am not sure on CRL files or resolve, except that I always hear Resolve performs much better. Based on my experience with 4k 60p 10-bit 420 h.265 files playback in premiere, I would say so.

    I can stack Flicker Free, Filmconvert, Cinematch, and more onto a single clip and still get smooth live playback without dropped frames with that codec! Neatvideo noise reduction still plays a bit choppy as expected, but renders so much quicker.
    That’s so good. It’s also nice providing fast, higher quality review files for those who aren’t used to seeing an ultra low res video.

    I’m just not interested in a future (4K at least) that involves ANY proxies/transcoding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by filmguy123 View Post
    Very happy!

    I am not sure on CRL files or resolve, except that I always hear Resolve performs much better. Based on my experience with 4k 60p 10-bit 420 h.265 files playback in premiere, I would say so.

    I can stack Flicker Free, Filmconvert, Cinematch, and more onto a single clip and still get smooth live playback without dropped frames with that codec! Neatvideo noise reduction still plays a bit choppy as expected, but renders so much quicker.
    But doesn't your H265 experience rely on having hardware accelerated H265 decoding and therefore not necessarily predictive of how it will perform with CRL?


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    Maybe someone here would like to contribute data to a Resolve benchmark?

    The link takes you to a post with more information about the benchmark and a link to download it. If you want to try it, but don't know how to set it up (you just need to import the project and relink media) I can explain in more detail. The linked post also has some more info on how to run it. The benchmark can be run on macOS, Windows or Linux.

    Regardless of that, here is some initial data for different systems. A MacBook Air M1 down below.

    Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 16 core | two separate Vega Pro II 32GB:

    09 Blur: 59 fps
    18 Blur: 37 fps
    30 Blur: 24 fps
    66 Blur: 12 fps

    1 TNR: 50 fps
    2 TNR: 30 fps
    4 TNR: 17 fps
    6 TNR: 11 fps

    * = This is the data I was given for this dual GPU setup, but this individual's setup is under investigation. Normally Resolve scales almost linearly with dual GPUs.

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    Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 12 core | Vega Pro II 32GB:

    09 Blur: 46 fps
    18 Blur: 24 fps
    30 Blur: 15 fps
    66 Blur: 07 fps

    1 TNR: 53 fps
    2 TNR: 30 fps
    4 TNR: 16 fps
    6 TNR: 11 fps

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    Mac Pro 5.1: 12 Core, Vega Frontier Edition 16GB

    09 blur = 31 fps
    18 blur = 16 fps
    30 blur = 10 fps
    66 blur = 05 fps

    01 TNR = 31 fps
    02 TNR = 17 fps
    04 TNR = 09 fps
    06 TNR = 06 fps

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    iMac 2020 | 10 core | 5700XT 16GB:

    09 Blur: 18 fps
    18 Blur: 10 fps
    30 Blur: 06 fps
    66 Blur: 03 fps

    1 TNR: 30 fps
    2 TNR: 16 fps
    4 TNR: 9 fps
    6 TNR: 6 fps

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    MacBook Pro 16" 2019 | 8 core i9 | 5500M 8GB:

    09 Blur: 13 fps
    18 Blur: 07 fps
    30 Blur: 04 fps
    66 Blur: 02 fps

    1 TNR: 17 fps
    2 TNR: 08 fps
    4 TNR: 04 fps
    6 TNR: 02 fps

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    MacBook Pro M1 2020:

    09 Blur: 07 fps
    18 Blur: 04 fps

    1 TNR: 09 fps
    2 TNR: 04 fps

    Looking for more complete data set here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahalpert View Post
    But doesn't your H265 experience rely on having hardware accelerated H265 decoding and therefore not necessarily predictive of how it will perform with CRL?
    Premiere is now GPU hardware accelerated for h.265 files on nvidia and amd cards. I don’t know about CRL files or resolve but to your point, yes, the smoothness I’m experiencing relies heavily on the GPU decoding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by filmguy123 View Post
    Testing new build of AMD 5950x and NVIDIA RTX 3090. Opened existing projects in Premiere Pro with h.265 hevc footage from S1H, 10-bit 420 4k non-transcoded straight from camera as LONG-GOP. .
    420 is the key for your good performance. They fly on my iMac 2019 and MPB 2018 as well.

    422 10bit HEVC is a totally different story. No chance for smooth playback on the Intel Mac but the M1 does.
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