dslr rig comparison - DVXuser.com -- The online community for filmmaking

jamesc · 08-30-2009, 01:08 PM

After trying to shoot handheld with the GH1, it's time to get some support for it. There was some previous discussion in this thread.

My original purpose for this thread was to show all the available options that could support a follow focus/mattebox. But due to a poorly chosen a title, I decided to post all the available options I could find. The ability to suppport follow focus/mattebox should be evident from the pictures. Zacuto and RedRock have multiple configuration for their kits, but so the sake of price, I've included each configuration separately. I've also updated each description with it's weight when available.

This is just a list of I compiled for my research. If you've had any experience with these or know their rough weights, please let me know (tried to include some existing threads if I saw them). Sorted by price ascending.

Agonic - Steadi-stock

Price: $22

Discussion: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=179443

Spiderbrace 1 & 2

Price: $55 (Mini Rig), $70 - $80 (Spiderbrace 1 & 2)

Weight: n/a
PVC

Varizoom - VZ 1 Shooter

Price: $129.95

Weight: 1 lb
Both height and forward/backward position of camcorder platform can be adjusted
Adjust the angle of the handle for a comfortable grip
Bendable shoulder bracket can be shaped to fit the preference of the operator
‘Bottom ‘C’ bracket provides additional support for your camcorder while resting on a flat surface

indisystem - indiRailspro DSLR sm

Price: $369.00

Weight: n/a
Sporting 18" carbon fiber rods
offset shoulder pad
new extendable handle system
Setups:
Discusion:
- http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.p...3&postcount=46
- http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=179185
- http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=181585

DVtec - MultiRig Pro

Price: $485.00

Weight: n/a
Shoulder Bar (comfortable?)
Acc. Plate, acc. shoe mount, acc. 3/8" mic mount
Shock absorbing support pod
folds pretty small

Cavision - DSLR Shoulder Mount Set

Price: $493.50 (bhphoto)

Weight:
15mm rods
shoulder support
LCD Viewfinder
dual handgrips

Zacuto - DSLR Rapid Fire

Price: $551

Weight: 1.38 lbs
Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter
Zicromount III with camera mounting pin
Z-mount II
6.5" Female/Female Rod
4.5" Female/Female Rod
Gunstock with 1/2" thread

Redrock Micro - eyeSpy Standard DSLR Rig

Price: $545.00

Weight: n/a
18" 15mm stainless steel rods
padded shoulderpad with rod clamp
rod offset kit (for centering the camera for viewfinder use)
1x microHandGrip
DSLR baseplate
microFinder loupe accessory for optical viewfinder (just a connector, not an actual loupe)

Redrock Micro - shoulder mount + DSLR baseplate (optional)

Price: $395 + $195 = $590.00

Weight: n/a
DSLR baseplate (optional, but recommended)
The Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter ($50) may be another option.
Patent pending shoulderpad with integrated tripod plate
2 rod clamps (one for mounting shoulder pad to rods, second for optional mounting of camera to rods separate from shoulder pad)
2 rubberized handgrips
handlebar clamp
1x 4” handlebar rod
1x 8” handlebar rod
18” 15mm stainless steel iris rods

Zacuto - DSLR Quick Draw

Price: $680

Weight: 1.19lbs
Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter
Zicromount III with camera mounting pin
Zgrip Z-Mount II
8" Female/Female Rod
Z-Mount II

Cinevate - DSLR Shoot Right

Price: $883.00

WEIGHT: n/a
CF rods
Offset shoulder pad
Hand grips

Zacuto - DSLR Tactical Shooter

Price: $1,117

Weight: 2.4lbs
Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter
Zicromount III with camera mounting pin
(3) Z-mount II
Zgrip Handle
(2) 4.5" Female/Female Rod
Gunstock with 1/2" thread
6.5" Female/Female Rod
8" Female/Female Rod

Zacuto - DSLR Starter Shooter

Price: $1432.90

Weight: 6.00 lbs
Mini Baseplate with 6" rod and 8" rod
Quick Release Adapter
Zgrip Z-Mount
Shoulder Pad with 12" rod and 8" rod
Studio 15mm Minimount
Minimount
Z-Finder
Strap

Mike@AF · 08-30-2009, 01:52 PM

If I didn't already have my Varizoom DV Media Rig that I got a long time ago I would be buying the Cinevate DSLR Rig.

I'm still waiting for parts for my new rig, which will be a custom contraption made of the Varizoom rig, IndiRAILSpro, RedRockMicro handles, Rycote shoe extension, some quick release mounts, and I'm still deciding between the RedrockMicro microFF and the Cinevate Durus FF. Total cost without the FF would be $1,100 and would give me a shoulder mount and a form of RedrockMicro's "Captain Stubling". I'll post pics when I get everything and put it all together, but that might be a week or two still.

EDIT: I'm also looking at going with the Cinevate handles instead of the RedrockMicro handles too.

Nicolas Christakis · 08-30-2009, 02:17 PM

I'm probably going with the Cinevate DSLR Rig.

I'm not sure which FF I should buy though. I just don't have another 1000 bucks to spend on a Durus...

Mike@AF · 08-30-2009, 02:34 PM

I'm in the same position. $600 vs. $1100 (thinking shipping). Is the Durus $500 better than the microFF? i'm guessing from feedback and reviews that it is, and I figure I'd probably keep the FF for a long time since it will work with any camera and lens packages I'll have in the future. I think I just talked myself into the Durus.

Nicolas Christakis · 08-30-2009, 03:02 PM

I guess it's better too, and I'm pretty sure it's a long lasting piece of equipment. Which I can't afford. So I think I have a look at the redrock.

SpecialEdFX · 08-30-2009, 03:42 PM

Got a indifocus bas and rods, redrock grips. Indifocus feels ok, but it sure ain't Chrosziel let alone a Letus base. Don't want shoulder support as it's way too much "stuff". Looking for a gunstock and found Zacuto's, which is costly, or that Bogen monopod stock that screws into the base. Any decent overhand solutions out there?

Summy · 08-30-2009, 04:21 PM

This redrock rig also seems intresting considering the gh1 flipout lcd might remove the need for the offset: http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c....it.A/id.433/.f

Ben_B · 08-31-2009, 12:42 AM

You missed the thread on DSLRsm when I got new parts:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=181585

jamesc · 08-31-2009, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summy

This redrock rig also seems intresting considering the gh1 flipout lcd might remove the need for the offset: http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c....it.A/id.433/.f

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben_B

You missed the thread on DSLRsm when I got new parts:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=181585

Updated the post

Jean Dantes · 08-31-2009, 07:55 AM

What would you guys go for between the "indiRailspro DSLRsm" and the "Redrock Micro Shoulder Mount + DSLR baseplate"?

Do you guys think the Redrock gear is worth the extra money?

And what is the point of the "DSLR baseplate"? The GH1 won't sit on the Redrock Micro Shoulder Mount without the DSLR baseplate?

08-30-2009, 01:08 PM	#1
jamesc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 192	dslr rig comparison After trying to shoot handheld with the GH1, it's time to get some support for it. There was some previous discussion in this thread. My original purpose for this thread was to show all the available options that could support a follow focus/mattebox. But due to a poorly chosen a title, I decided to post all the available options I could find. The ability to suppport follow focus/mattebox should be evident from the pictures. Zacuto and RedRock have multiple configuration for their kits, but so the sake of price, I've included each configuration separately. I've also updated each description with it's weight when available. This is just a list of I compiled for my research. If you've had any experience with these or know their rough weights, please let me know (tried to include some existing threads if I saw them). Sorted by price ascending. Agonic - Steadi-stock Price: $22 Discussion: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=179443 Spiderbrace 1 & 2 Price: $55 (Mini Rig), $70 - $80 (Spiderbrace 1 & 2) Weight: n/a PVC Varizoom - VZ 1 Shooter Price: $129.95 Weight: 1 lb Both height and forward/backward position of camcorder platform can be adjusted Adjust the angle of the handle for a comfortable grip Bendable shoulder bracket can be shaped to fit the preference of the operator ‘Bottom ‘C’ bracket provides additional support for your camcorder while resting on a flat surface indisystem - indiRailspro DSLR sm Price: $369.00 Weight: n/a Sporting 18" carbon fiber rods offset shoulder pad new extendable handle system Setups: Discusion: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.p...3&postcount=46 http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=179185 http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=181585 DVtec - MultiRig Pro Price: $485.00 Weight: n/a Shoulder Bar (comfortable?) Acc. Plate, acc. shoe mount, acc. 3/8" mic mount Shock absorbing support pod folds pretty small Cavision - DSLR Shoulder Mount Set Price: $493.50 (bhphoto) Weight: 15mm rods shoulder support LCD Viewfinder dual handgrips Zacuto - DSLR Rapid Fire Price: $551 Weight: 1.38 lbs Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter Zicromount III with camera mounting pin Z-mount II 6.5" Female/Female Rod 4.5" Female/Female Rod Gunstock with 1/2" thread Redrock Micro - eyeSpy Standard DSLR Rig Price: $545.00 Weight: n/a 18" 15mm stainless steel rods padded shoulderpad with rod clamp rod offset kit (for centering the camera for viewfinder use) 1x microHandGrip DSLR baseplate microFinder loupe accessory for optical viewfinder (just a connector, not an actual loupe) Redrock Micro - shoulder mount + DSLR baseplate (optional) Price: $395 + $195 = $590.00 Weight: n/a DSLR baseplate (optional, but recommended) The Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter ($50) may be another option. Patent pending shoulderpad with integrated tripod plate 2 rod clamps (one for mounting shoulder pad to rods, second for optional mounting of camera to rods separate from shoulder pad) 2 rubberized handgrips handlebar clamp 1x 4” handlebar rod 1x 8” handlebar rod 18” 15mm stainless steel iris rods Zacuto - DSLR Quick Draw Price: $680 Weight: 1.19lbs Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter Zicromount III with camera mounting pin Zgrip Z-Mount II 8" Female/Female Rod Z-Mount II Cinevate - DSLR Shoot Right Price: $883.00 WEIGHT: n/a CF rods Offset shoulder pad Hand grips Zacuto - DSLR Tactical Shooter Price: $1,117 Weight: 2.4lbs Manfrotto Low Profile Quick Release adapter Zicromount III with camera mounting pin (3) Z-mount II Zgrip Handle (2) 4.5" Female/Female Rod Gunstock with 1/2" thread 6.5" Female/Female Rod 8" Female/Female Rod Zacuto - DSLR Starter Shooter Price: $1432.90 Weight: 6.00 lbs Mini Baseplate with 6" rod and 8" rod Quick Release Adapter Zgrip Z-Mount Shoulder Pad with 12" rod and 8" rod Studio 15mm Minimount Minimount Z-Finder Strap Last edited by jamesc; 08-31-2009 at 01:50 PM.

08-30-2009, 01:52 PM	#2
Mike@AF Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Studio City, CA Posts: 1,269	If I didn't already have my Varizoom DV Media Rig that I got a long time ago I would be buying the Cinevate DSLR Rig. I'm still waiting for parts for my new rig, which will be a custom contraption made of the Varizoom rig, IndiRAILSpro, RedRockMicro handles, Rycote shoe extension, some quick release mounts, and I'm still deciding between the RedrockMicro microFF and the Cinevate Durus FF. Total cost without the FF would be $1,100 and would give me a shoulder mount and a form of RedrockMicro's "Captain Stubling". I'll post pics when I get everything and put it all together, but that might be a week or two still. EDIT: I'm also looking at going with the Cinevate handles instead of the RedrockMicro handles too. __________________ Mike @ Ascentia Films Last edited by Mike@AF; 08-30-2009 at 01:57 PM.

08-30-2009, 02:17 PM	#3
Nicolas Christakis Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 35	I'm probably going with the Cinevate DSLR Rig. I'm not sure which FF I should buy though. I just don't have another 1000 bucks to spend on a Durus... Last edited by Nicolas Christakis; 08-30-2009 at 02:24 PM.

08-30-2009, 02:34 PM	#4
Mike@AF Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Studio City, CA Posts: 1,269	I'm in the same position. $600 vs. $1100 (thinking shipping). Is the Durus $500 better than the microFF? i'm guessing from feedback and reviews that it is, and I figure I'd probably keep the FF for a long time since it will work with any camera and lens packages I'll have in the future. I think I just talked myself into the Durus. __________________ Mike @ Ascentia Films

08-31-2009, 12:42 AM	#8
Ben_B Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Davis and Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 2,581	You missed the thread on DSLRsm when I got new parts: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=181585 __________________ "Can't stop the signal." http://www.vimeo.com/benbunch benbunchfilms.com

08-30-2009, 03:02 PM	#5
Nicolas Christakis Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 35	I guess it's better too, and I'm pretty sure it's a long lasting piece of equipment. Which I can't afford. So I think I have a look at the redrock.

08-30-2009, 03:42 PM	#6
SpecialEdFX Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 32	Got a indifocus bas and rods, redrock grips. Indifocus feels ok, but it sure ain't Chrosziel let alone a Letus base. Don't want shoulder support as it's way too much "stuff". Looking for a gunstock and found Zacuto's, which is costly, or that Bogen monopod stock that screws into the base. Any decent overhand solutions out there?

08-30-2009, 04:21 PM	#7
Summy Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 25	This redrock rig also seems intresting considering the gh1 flipout lcd might remove the need for the offset: http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c....it.A/id.433/.f

08-31-2009, 07:55 AM	#10
Jean Dantes Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 437	What would you guys go for between the "indiRailspro DSLRsm" and the "Redrock Micro Shoulder Mount + DSLR baseplate"? Do you guys think the Redrock gear is worth the extra money? And what is the point of the "DSLR baseplate"? The GH1 won't sit on the Redrock Micro Shoulder Mount without the DSLR baseplate?

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