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24fps4ever · 12-08-2007, 10:25 PM

just a fast question for mac users, can the newest FCP handle hvx200 mxf files
at 720 natively and more important 1080 also? can it remove the pulldown from 108024PA natively or do you have to go somewhere else??

thanks guys

reason why I ask is because I might be making the switch pretty soon

24fps4ever · 12-08-2007, 11:02 PM

any help ??

n8ture · 12-09-2007, 03:55 AM

FCP still doesn't handle MXF files natively, but I use Raylight and that has eliminated the need to Log and Transfer or convert the files to QuickTime before I can edit.

Jack Daniel Stanley · 12-09-2007, 04:29 AM

Even without Raylight, you view the MXF files in a log and transfer window as Kevin mentioned, pick the ones you want, even set in and out points and then they are trasnfered into FCP, still DVCproHD but now in a QT rapper.

Not as cool as dragging and dropping MXF into the timeline but still way better / easier than tape.

And yeah it will apply advanced pulldown for you on transfer.

24fps4ever · 12-09-2007, 10:19 AM

man that is some BS, all this time I thought everyone praised the mac because how easy it was to edit mxf files from the hvx and now you're telling me that you cannot edit natively on FCP, now this is a surprize

Jack Daniel Stanley · 12-09-2007, 10:48 AM

Hmmm ... its integrated with P2 ... maybe that's what people talk about?

In a certain sense it trumps Vegas because at least it has a "native" log and transfer window. Vegas can edit MXF when you buy raylight. (or so I understand)

FCP can edit MXF when you buy raylight.

But really, you have to backup all your footage anyway since there's no tape archive. So when you use the log and transfer window you wind up with a QT copy in addition to the original MXF copy from the P2 card.

24fps4ever · 12-09-2007, 11:01 AM

so how is the workflow different if you use raylight on a mac or if you dont? how does that affect your workflow?

Jack Daniel Stanley · 12-09-2007, 11:04 AM

I don't have raylight, but it allows you to drop MXF files right into your timeline.

You just skip the part where you change from the MXF wrapper to the QT wrapper.

Also my understanding is that you can keep some of the meta data from the card.

24fps4ever · 12-09-2007, 11:06 AM

how long does this process take, the changing to the qt wrapper? on average say for a full 16 gb p2 card, all those clips

thanks

Jack Daniel Stanley · 12-09-2007, 11:15 AM

Well you can review in the field on a laptop instantly via the log and transfer window.

If you just import a card ... hmmm ... never really payed attention ... on my imac? 5 or 10 minutes? but you can be working while it does that in the background.

12-08-2007, 10:25 PM	#1
24fps4ever Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: texas Posts: 277	Question for mac users just a fast question for mac users, can the newest FCP handle hvx200 mxf files at 720 natively and more important 1080 also? can it remove the pulldown from 108024PA natively or do you have to go somewhere else?? thanks guys reason why I ask is because I might be making the switch pretty soon __________________ I will always direct, in hollywood actors and musictians wanna direct and directors wanna act....ohh madness... I will never lose my "direction" -me

12-08-2007, 11:02 PM	#2
24fps4ever Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: texas Posts: 277	any help ?? __________________ I will always direct, in hollywood actors and musictians wanna direct and directors wanna act....ohh madness... I will never lose my "direction" -me

12-09-2007, 03:55 AM	#3
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12-09-2007, 04:29 AM	#4
Jack Daniel Stanley levitating moderating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Hollywood Posts: 10,203	Even without Raylight, you view the MXF files in a log and transfer window as Kevin mentioned, pick the ones you want, even set in and out points and then they are trasnfered into FCP, still DVCproHD but now in a QT rapper. Not as cool as dragging and dropping MXF into the timeline but still way better / easier than tape. And yeah it will apply advanced pulldown for you on transfer. __________________ _ SHADY TEXAS TEASER VID_____"DEPTH OF PHIL" SXSW 2010 SHORT (TRAILER) _ SXSW ~ SLAMDANCE ~ TRIBECA ~ TORONTO AFTER DARK ~ SUNDANCE CHANNEL ONLINE ~ DELTA AIRLINES ~ AUSTIN FILM FESTIVAL ~ LONE STAR INTERNATIONAL ~ DRAGONCON ~ PHILLY CINEFEST / DANGER AFTER DARK ~ SHRIEKFEST ~ FRIGHT NIGHT ~ ATLANTA HORROR ~ DALLAS VIDEO FEST ~ TEXAS BLOODBATH ... BEST DIRECTOR: FRIGHT NIGHT ~ BEST HORROR SHORT: CAPE FEAR ~ BEST SHORT: TEXAS BB ~ 4X'S FINALIST: SHRIEKFEST ~ FINALIST: DELTA AIRLINES ~ 7X'S WIN OR PLACE: DVXUSER FRENCH QUARTER FEATURES . COM

12-09-2007, 10:19 AM	#5
24fps4ever Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: texas Posts: 277	man that is some BS, all this time I thought everyone praised the mac because how easy it was to edit mxf files from the hvx and now you're telling me that you cannot edit natively on FCP, now this is a surprize __________________ I will always direct, in hollywood actors and musictians wanna direct and directors wanna act....ohh madness... I will never lose my "direction" -me

12-09-2007, 10:48 AM	#6
Jack Daniel Stanley levitating moderating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Hollywood Posts: 10,203	Hmmm ... its integrated with P2 ... maybe that's what people talk about? In a certain sense it trumps Vegas because at least it has a "native" log and transfer window. Vegas can edit MXF when you buy raylight. (or so I understand) FCP can edit MXF when you buy raylight. But really, you have to backup all your footage anyway since there's no tape archive. So when you use the log and transfer window you wind up with a QT copy in addition to the original MXF copy from the P2 card. __________________ _ SHADY TEXAS TEASER VID_____"DEPTH OF PHIL" SXSW 2010 SHORT (TRAILER) _ SXSW ~ SLAMDANCE ~ TRIBECA ~ TORONTO AFTER DARK ~ SUNDANCE CHANNEL ONLINE ~ DELTA AIRLINES ~ AUSTIN FILM FESTIVAL ~ LONE STAR INTERNATIONAL ~ DRAGONCON ~ PHILLY CINEFEST / DANGER AFTER DARK ~ SHRIEKFEST ~ FRIGHT NIGHT ~ ATLANTA HORROR ~ DALLAS VIDEO FEST ~ TEXAS BLOODBATH ... BEST DIRECTOR: FRIGHT NIGHT ~ BEST HORROR SHORT: CAPE FEAR ~ BEST SHORT: TEXAS BB ~ 4X'S FINALIST: SHRIEKFEST ~ FINALIST: DELTA AIRLINES ~ 7X'S WIN OR PLACE: DVXUSER FRENCH QUARTER FEATURES . COM

12-09-2007, 11:01 AM	#7
24fps4ever Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: texas Posts: 277	so how is the workflow different if you use raylight on a mac or if you dont? how does that affect your workflow? __________________ I will always direct, in hollywood actors and musictians wanna direct and directors wanna act....ohh madness... I will never lose my "direction" -me

12-09-2007, 11:04 AM	#8
Jack Daniel Stanley levitating moderating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Hollywood Posts: 10,203	I don't have raylight, but it allows you to drop MXF files right into your timeline. You just skip the part where you change from the MXF wrapper to the QT wrapper. Also my understanding is that you can keep some of the meta data from the card. __________________ _ SHADY TEXAS TEASER VID_____"DEPTH OF PHIL" SXSW 2010 SHORT (TRAILER) _ SXSW ~ SLAMDANCE ~ TRIBECA ~ TORONTO AFTER DARK ~ SUNDANCE CHANNEL ONLINE ~ DELTA AIRLINES ~ AUSTIN FILM FESTIVAL ~ LONE STAR INTERNATIONAL ~ DRAGONCON ~ PHILLY CINEFEST / DANGER AFTER DARK ~ SHRIEKFEST ~ FRIGHT NIGHT ~ ATLANTA HORROR ~ DALLAS VIDEO FEST ~ TEXAS BLOODBATH ... BEST DIRECTOR: FRIGHT NIGHT ~ BEST HORROR SHORT: CAPE FEAR ~ BEST SHORT: TEXAS BB ~ 4X'S FINALIST: SHRIEKFEST ~ FINALIST: DELTA AIRLINES ~ 7X'S WIN OR PLACE: DVXUSER FRENCH QUARTER FEATURES . COM

12-09-2007, 11:06 AM	#9
24fps4ever Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: texas Posts: 277	how long does this process take, the changing to the qt wrapper? on average say for a full 16 gb p2 card, all those clips thanks __________________ I will always direct, in hollywood actors and musictians wanna direct and directors wanna act....ohh madness... I will never lose my "direction" -me

12-09-2007, 11:15 AM	#10
Jack Daniel Stanley levitating moderating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Hollywood Posts: 10,203	Well you can review in the field on a laptop instantly via the log and transfer window. If you just import a card ... hmmm ... never really payed attention ... on my imac? 5 or 10 minutes? but you can be working while it does that in the background. __________________ _ SHADY TEXAS TEASER VID_____"DEPTH OF PHIL" SXSW 2010 SHORT (TRAILER) _ SXSW ~ SLAMDANCE ~ TRIBECA ~ TORONTO AFTER DARK ~ SUNDANCE CHANNEL ONLINE ~ DELTA AIRLINES ~ AUSTIN FILM FESTIVAL ~ LONE STAR INTERNATIONAL ~ DRAGONCON ~ PHILLY CINEFEST / DANGER AFTER DARK ~ SHRIEKFEST ~ FRIGHT NIGHT ~ ATLANTA HORROR ~ DALLAS VIDEO FEST ~ TEXAS BLOODBATH ... BEST DIRECTOR: FRIGHT NIGHT ~ BEST HORROR SHORT: CAPE FEAR ~ BEST SHORT: TEXAS BB ~ 4X'S FINALIST: SHRIEKFEST ~ FINALIST: DELTA AIRLINES ~ 7X'S WIN OR PLACE: DVXUSER FRENCH QUARTER FEATURES . COM

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