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nedcam · Yesterday, 06:36 PM

Hey Dan,

Your EPK gig is a nightmare with the 300, I'd try to get the client to pay for a HDX900, there are cheap transfer services that would dump it to a drive, thus avoiding a deck rental. I have been asked about filming in similar situations and can't figure out how to do it in P2, especially with a 300, alone, with just 2 slots. That's one of the reasons I think XDCAM will be the winner in the long run.

puredrifting · Yesterday, 08:09 PM

I agree Ned. As much as I love P2 and the Panasonic cameras, for certain situations, shooting tape or even lame XDCAM HD discs seems to just be more practical. On the post end though, tape sucks and I have never worked with the XDCAM discs so I am not sure about them. But then you have buy a stupid XDCAM HD player, don't you? What do those cost? I do occasionally edit some of my lower end projects myself and for post, I love P2 so much more than tape. But if you only shoot, sometimes P2 can be quite the drag.

This client already spent all of their budget on me for a film I DP'd for them, I am shooting EPK for them as a favor for some small token pay since they paid me well to shoot the film and it is premiering in an IMAX theater in Europe (film was shot 1080, not IMAX). So I know that they have zero budget to rent me anything, I will have to muddle through it with my cards. It will be cool to see our little film on a huge IMAX screen though.

OTOH, I shot a corporate gig today, a presentation, a few soundbite standups and perhaps 20 minutes of B-roll. P2 worked great, although I will have to sit down Monday to dump the cards. But only four cards between two cameras, not bad. It will take perhaps an hour.

Dan

Stu · Today, 05:31 AM

“Lame XDCAM HD discs”???

I do hope you take this in the spirit it is intended - unqualified, unprofessional remarks like that help to misinform readers, and with someone who has been working in the industry as long as you have Dan, you do yourself a disservice.

If you would like to understand XDCAM HD a little better you can find plenty information on it, however I add a couple of links to our own reviews in the hope that you may find them helpful.

1: You can firewire the camera into your laptop (Download Free XDCAM HD transfer software from Sony site) or you could hire a handy sized U1 disc drive (Download Free XDCAM HD U1 drive software). Very simple, uncomplicated, and all works perfectly. And if you use XDCAM HD422, this is EBU approved.

2: If there is a need - You can send the proxy files back to the USA via the internet for your studio/client to work on - with the discs - because they are cheap, following in the post/courier - that once loaded will automatically replace the proxies.

http://www.studioscotland.com/SonyF350_review.htm

http://www.studioscotland.com/Sony700_review.htm

http://www.studioscotland.com/Sony422_review.htm

All the very best with your shoot Dan…

Regards: Stu
www.studioscotland.com

Yesterday, 06:36 PM	#81
nedcam Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago & Milwaukee Posts: 77	Hey Dan, Your EPK gig is a nightmare with the 300, I'd try to get the client to pay for a HDX900, there are cheap transfer services that would dump it to a drive, thus avoiding a deck rental. I have been asked about filming in similar situations and can't figure out how to do it in P2, especially with a 300, alone, with just 2 slots. That's one of the reasons I think XDCAM will be the winner in the long run. __________________ Ned Miller Chicago-based Freelance Videographer www.nedmiller.com

Yesterday, 08:09 PM	#82
puredrifting Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 4,103	I agree Ned. As much as I love P2 and the Panasonic cameras, for certain situations, shooting tape or even lame XDCAM HD discs seems to just be more practical. On the post end though, tape sucks and I have never worked with the XDCAM discs so I am not sure about them. But then you have buy a stupid XDCAM HD player, don't you? What do those cost? I do occasionally edit some of my lower end projects myself and for post, I love P2 so much more than tape. But if you only shoot, sometimes P2 can be quite the drag. This client already spent all of their budget on me for a film I DP'd for them, I am shooting EPK for them as a favor for some small token pay since they paid me well to shoot the film and it is premiering in an IMAX theater in Europe (film was shot 1080, not IMAX). So I know that they have zero budget to rent me anything, I will have to muddle through it with my cards. It will be cool to see our little film on a huge IMAX screen though. OTOH, I shot a corporate gig today, a presentation, a few soundbite standups and perhaps 20 minutes of B-roll. P2 worked great, although I will have to sit down Monday to dump the cards. But only four cards between two cameras, not bad. It will take perhaps an hour. Dan __________________ Using the HPX-170 to produce extraordinary content for all of your favorite DVDs and the 5D MKII to have fun.

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Today, 05:31 AM	#83
Stu Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 51	“Lame XDCAM HD discs”??? I do hope you take this in the spirit it is intended - unqualified, unprofessional remarks like that help to misinform readers, and with someone who has been working in the industry as long as you have Dan, you do yourself a disservice. If you would like to understand XDCAM HD a little better you can find plenty information on it, however I add a couple of links to our own reviews in the hope that you may find them helpful. 1: You can firewire the camera into your laptop (Download Free XDCAM HD transfer software from Sony site) or you could hire a handy sized U1 disc drive (Download Free XDCAM HD U1 drive software). Very simple, uncomplicated, and all works perfectly. And if you use XDCAM HD422, this is EBU approved. 2: If there is a need - You can send the proxy files back to the USA via the internet for your studio/client to work on - with the discs - because they are cheap, following in the post/courier - that once loaded will automatically replace the proxies. http://www.studioscotland.com/SonyF350_review.htm http://www.studioscotland.com/Sony700_review.htm http://www.studioscotland.com/Sony422_review.htm All the very best with your shoot Dan… Regards: Stu www.studioscotland.com