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    Hi,

    does anyone know of any books from 2006 that are cutting edge and deal with 2K or even 4K HD film making?

    Thanks in advance


     

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    Unless you're shooting uncompressed RAW, much of the information on current 4K filmmaking will be somewhat irrelevant. I am assuming, of course, that you're looking for information about workflow and asset management. REDCODE RAW is changing everything - at least for RED users. If you're looking for literature on the hands-on details of working with high-end cinema cameras, that's a different story.
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    I don't think it gets more current and cutting edge than websites such as DVXuser. Once Barry Green makes the rumored "RED Book", then we'll have a book worth looking into. But right now, the most up-to-date info you'll find on 4K filmmaking is online, not in print.
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    RAW is new for motion pictures. I don't think there are any existing books that will help. Learning how RAW works in digital stills photography can help though.

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    One other little blip... am I the only one who's growing a pet peeve about hearing the RED [or other 4K cameras] called "HD" cameras? It's like hearing them called "video" cameras, it just rubs me the wrong way. Yes, the RED can output to HD... other 4K cameras probably can as well.

    It's like saying that Miami Vice was shot in HD. Wrong - it was shot in 4K.

    Video. SD. HD. 2K. 4K. Digital Cinema.

    Uncompressed RAW. REDCODE RAW.

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    Yes, we prefer "Digital Cinema" as a camera descriptor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brook Willard
    It's like saying that Miami Vice was shot in HD. Wrong - it was shot in 4K.


    um...1080 4:4:4?


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme_Nattress
    RAW is new for motion pictures. I don't think there are any existing books that will help. Learning how RAW works in digital stills photography can help though.

    Graeme
    TMCA28, you should check out http://www.luminous-landscape.com/ which is a site with great tutorials on working with digital still photography, including RAW stills.


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by _MR_


    um...1080 4:4:4?
    I was nervous about posting that claim, I've read it was 1080 4:4:4 and I've read it was 4K 4:4:4. My point remains even if my example was incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brook Willard
    I was nervous about posting that claim, I've read it was 1080 4:4:4 and I've read it was 4K 4:4:4. My point remains even if my example was incorrect.
    Hey thanks for the replies I will check out the link.

    Yes you're correct it is Digital cinema not HD! HD sort of diminishes what can/will be accomplished with this camera.

    I know most of the info on 4K digital cinema is basically on this site and a few others but I'd also like to have a definitive text on it (I'll definitely get Barry Green's book if and when it comes out) as I find with such a new area of cutting edge technology there can be conflicting opinions on technical aspects (not necessarily this site but the net in general - Brook, an example is how you read in 2 places that Miami Vice was 1080 4:4:4 and then 4K 4:4:4) which is what I want to know inside out before I invest in a RED.

    I read Chuck Gloman's HDV book out in November to give me a run through of HDV before I research digital cinema in depth. I'm also reading Blain Brown's book on cinematography which has a shortish chapter on digital cinema.

    As for Miami Vice - I was reading about the 1080P 4:4:4 workflow yesterday - pretty amazing to think that this was only able to be accomplished by large scale productions using ThomsonVipers and similar standard 2K cameras before RED came along...

    Again thanks,


     

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