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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanuel
    It's the space in disk (MB) per minute @24fps as far as I can get it.
    Yes it is the space in disk (MB) but not per minute, just for one image.... and both compressed and uncompressed have the same size (72 MB)
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    The size is the same because the linked images have been transcoded into TIFF files which makes them identical size at identical resolution.
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    I resized Chris's images to half their sizes and the uncompressed image still has clearly more detail in the textures. So if you want to work with 2K images and want to use the onboard recording option, maybe you should save 2K RGB compressed instead of 4K RAW compressed. I know that JPEG2000 (wavelet encoding) can save visually lossless 2K images at 27MB/sec (24fps), so RED wavelet should be better at 2K than RED RAW 4K scaled to 2K.


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by visceralpsyche
    The size is the same because the linked images have been transcoded into TIFF files which makes them identical size at identical resolution.
    Do you mean that when exporting the REDCODE footage to image sequence like TIFF files will create a files that are 72 MBytes each, and so will be an umcompressed footage.... so what format (not coded, as the codec we know will be REDCODE) will you choose to export to in REDCINE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laboprod
    Yes it is the space in disk (MB) but not per minute, just for one image.... and both compressed and uncompressed have the same size (72 MB)
    Understood but I thought his mention was motion picture related on the comparision between REDCODE (216Mbps = 27MB/s) and uncompressed HD options. However he mentioned MB and not GB, so I stand corrected adding the same question as you.
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    This is not directed at anyone in particular, but addresses a general tone across a number of threads...

    Let's see... REDCODE is potentially a few % points softer at full 4K+ resolution which would be averaged out and vanish at a 2K finish... but still keys like a million dollars and has the bandwidth weight of a flea... and people are STILL talking uncompressed RAID as if they're not getting the goods???

    In a world without RED on the near horizon, there'd be NO 4K camera that you could own, and NO compressed solution at any level for ANY camera beyond 2K... I think we need a degree of perspective here. 12 months ago most of this board was agog over the potential of the 4:2:2 HVX, and now we stand light years beyond that, and several major steps beyond ANYTHING you can buy at any price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Arthurs
    This is not directed at anyone in particular, but addresses a general tone across a number of threads...

    Let's see... REDCODE is potentially a few % points softer at full 4K+ resolution which would be averaged out and vanish at a 2K finish... but still keys like a million dollars and has the bandwidth weight of a flea... and people are STILL talking uncompressed RAID as if they're not getting the goods???
    Well said Jim. Another point to remember is that REDCODE is still not finished. Graeme has already stated that the codec has been "radically improved" since those shots were done. All you gripers, give it another month or two, then if you're still not happy, good luck with those portable RAIDs.


     

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    I agree, that's what has been said and it's precisely what I and the others we all have found from the comparision.
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    Seriously guys, I know all of you are trying to analyze the footage and such, but it's just getting old. We all know what it looks like, we all enjoy your feedback, but for the love of everyone on this board, this camera rocks and the footage shows.
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    Hahahahahaahahaahahaha
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